[dev 1065]99 R/M/E. Double checking to be completely sure.

[Rukkirii]

Hello Insaniac!

I forwarded your question to the dev. team and they informed me that there are no plans in making the stats and the weapon skill damage different between the two stages of the weapons. The difference between the two will be the afterglow and the visual effect.

I hope that helps clear some confusion!

[DrForester]

I would say that maybe the stage one being so difficult for relics is because of hwo much easier they are to obtain, and empyrean's also being much easier to obtain than relics or mythics ever were.

But it doesn't explain being mean to Mythic trials as Mythics are practically impossible to obtain anymore with the silly Alexandrite requirement.

[Anewie]

Hello Insaniac!

I forwarded your question to the dev. team and they informed me that there are no plans in making the stats and the weapon skill damage different between the two stages of the weapons. The difference between the two will be the afterglow and the visual effect.

I hope that helps clear some confusion!

I'm officially jumping the shark, to team Pigmoa. WTF?

Now I get it, You want some things to be impossible to obtain. I understand and respect that. Seeing as how it doesn't really effect me, as I couldn't care less about shit I can't do and I understand you guys want some players to be special or elite but wtf?

So basically you want people to do 100 PWs and 300 DLS to have a glow effect? And a sphere effect that is virtually useless to the person who persued such a ridiculous and crude trial?

I'm not pissed at all, i find it rather humerous. Where is the logic in this? WHY WOULD ANYONE DO IT? To glow? LMAO I'm sorry but you guys have lost your minds.

I can see people doing insane trials for amazing stats and increased damage or some special trait that boosts their playability, but if you honestly think any group will waste time doing a trial that long and hard, to simply glow (which can be turned off via effects if a person doesnt wanna see it) you guys really are as crazy and looney as the forum says...

Yes, i can understand 100pws trial if you want a player to gain some amazing stat or something, the people who want to be the absolute absolute absolute best would try for it (altho they have too much free time and are crazy, but i understand the want to be special in game) but to make a trial like THAT for something that is USELESS other than to glow.

I am officially team "WTF SE".

I totally support this trial being reduced/erased/gtfo IF THATS all it offers. I am aware SE only offers small rewards for long trials anyway, but this trial has to be the MOST SHALLOW and ridiculous trial from a payoff-reward ration in all FFXI.

I'm not suggesting they make it the only stage, im suggesting they rework the whole thing to just be as easy as people want it. That's a way better strat than doing this. This is truly alienating. It's like you guys are running so desperate for idea to keep people playing? No one is going to do this trial. People do relics for themselves. No one is going to do 300 adls so they can glow. People would do 300 adls for increased stats and proc dmg. People do relics to be stronger and better at their jobs... not to glow. At least not to the extent of 100 fkin pws.

I would rather there only be the easy trial. At least It gives me some comfort the dev team hasnt completley lost it. I used to think maybe people were whining a bit too much, but with this trial.. honestly.. are u that desperate to keep us playing that u would dare ask us to do 100 PANDEMONIUM WARDENs just to ...glow?

Just GTFO

[Insaniac]

Hello Insaniac!

I forwarded your question to the dev. team and they informed me that there are no plans in making the stats and the weapon skill damage different between the two stages of the weapons. The difference between the two will be the afterglow and the visual effect.

I hope that helps clear some confusion!

Thank you RuRu! This is the answer I and a lot of my relic friends were hoping for!

[Anewie]

Thank you RuRu! This is the answer I and a lot of my relic friends were hoping for!

why are u happy about this rather than more pissed?

doesn't it worry you more that they would make trials so stupid for such a reward? That's a worse sign than asking us to grind for something top tier.

I understand people are happy about the easier trial payoff, but it doesnt worry u for what they might do in the future?

Don't thank him. He's an idiot and so are his coworkers!

example of future trial: KILL AV 100 TIMES FOR NEW EMOTICONS! WTF?

someone fire these losers and the dev team plz.

[Anewie]

Like this same thing applies to salvage drop rates, hnms, and etc. I can understand why they exist and why drops are rare. It's a time sink that offered people top tier stuff. Let's not get into politics cause that's not my point.

My point is, what is worse, a system that offers nothing useful for ridiculous amounts of time, or a system that offers anywhere from small upgrades to big ones for ridiculous amounts of time? Both can be bad, but only one makes some form of sense.

This trial was ridiculous anyway, but it's pointless now. This might seem like a good thing, but I think it raises a bit more red flags than white ones.. . . .

[Insaniac]

First of all RuRu is just a messenger so don't be an ass.

Second. No it actually gives me hope that there is a method to the apparent madness. The glow trial is insane on a monumental level but there are some people who want trials like that. The majority though do not. Splitting it into 2 makes the most sense. It's a prestige trial with a minor boost to utility but it will keep the true no lifers busy for a very very long time. They will want it so that they can say they did it and others weren't able to but the people who are sane enough to never even touch the trial can be happy with their level 99s.

tldr

Putting a hugely beneficial stat on the glow weapons would cause people like myself to quit. Making only an easy to complete trial would cause the hardest of the hardcores to quit when they had nothing left to do. In a sick way it's actually pretty smart.

[Anewie]

First of all RuRu is just a messenger so don't be an ass.

Second. No it actually gives me hope that there is a method to the apparent madness. The glow trial is insane on a monumental level but there are some people who want trials like that. The majority though do not. Splitting it into 2 makes the most sense. It's a prestige trial with a minor boost to utility but it will keep the true no lifers busy for a very very long time. They will want it so that they can say they did it and others weren't able to but the people who are sane enough to never even touch the trial can be happy with their level 99s.

tldr

Putting a hugely beneficial stat on the glow weapons would cause people like myself to quit. Making only an easy to complete trial would cause the hardest of the hardcores to quit when they had nothing left to do. In a sick way it's actually pretty smart.

Don't be naive. He works for SE just like anyone else. Have you seen some of the bs in the dev tracker? Don't defend them. I hold them all to the same merit, they all get a piece of my dollar, and im sure they support their co workers, but that's another story.

Also naive about the sense behind the trial. Now maybe im in the minority of people who are unbiased for the most part, but... why would anyone do this trial? Please post if u are someone who would do this and answer why. You want to glow that badly?

Idk.. i geared myself to be stronger.. If anyone actually does this trial just to glow, thats pretty lol. Maybe naive as well to think no one is that desperate to be special that would put themselves through such trauma for a useless stat but idk.

I'm also on the boat of people who think "wtf" to people quitting cause they can't have the best. Like lmao. You cant have the best gear cause its too time consuming so you're gonna quit? I'm sorry but both parties are losers.

LOLzzzz

[Anewie]

YOU WANNA BE SPECIAL?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Goblin_Belt

YOU'RE WELCOME!

As for whiners who quit cause of a hard trial *Insert tissue GIF*

also to insaniac and fellow relic holders, im not really attacking u all personally. im trying not to be a complete bitch.. If u wanna quit, thats ur business, i think its silly to quit vanadiel cause of a game trial. I quit because of boredom content, but that's just me. I can understand u being angry about something u wanna obtain, but quitting over it cause u dont have the time? That's just not my style. I look for stuff i enjoy and just do that. Theres plenty of stuff to do.

[Insaniac]

You have trouble thinking outside of your tiny box and you are clearly mad about decisions you aren't able to comprehend. Creating 2 separate paths for "player a" who enjoys being stronger and doesn't care if others are able to gain the same level of strength and "player b" who only cares about having more stuff than the next guy makes the most people happy. I've already seen people claiming they can't wait to get started on the glow trial. Call them insane if you want because they probably are but it doesn't change the fact that the dev team was smart for making a different path to keep them happy while putting the meat of the trial on stage 1 which will keep the 99% that aren't willing to do stage 2 happy.