No more almost impossible to obtain crap please

[Alhanelem]

PS what's even more silly about this is afterglow doesn't affect the user.

Especially considering how terrible the afterglows are, AND how the trials are apparently going to be stupidly hard, why bother making these things in the first place. They could have saved a lot of time and stress doing nothing. Why waste a single iota of time making content nobody is going to experience?

[Zinato]

The thing that bothers me is how the game is returning to the days of one person reaping the spoils of a large group. 500 PW kills ill take, (time consuming it maybe but then 18 people can do this trial at once) 500 drops even 20 at a time is not cool. Also three of the biggest names on the forum notorious for disagreements just straight out with no conditions agreed on this, personally I see that as impressive, we need to get more people backing this. (I'm not in any way saying disagreements are bad, the best ideas consider all view points)

[Sparthos]

Afterglow as an effect for players coming off the 99 trial would have been fine. You get your 99 weapon and you get a gift by getting to glow in town, giving your PT a little throwaway effect and overall something neat for those with the resilience to have made it from the first trial to the finale.

But oh no this is SE and apparently the ability to glow must first be tested by your ability to cry after seeing the requirements these trials entail. The thing with SE is that they always ask so much of a player for so little in return and it comes to full prominence in these joke-tier 99 'stage 2' trials. Apparently to get a glow effect and a weak sphere buff you need to put in years of effort? Cmon, at least make that level of work equivalent to the effort put in. Dev time is wasted on this garbage while things like actual large-scale tweaks are pushed back constantly.

I have a word for the devs: Priorities.

It's pretty clear this stage1/2 business was designed in response to the overwhelming rage against 99 trials being impossible tier which is why the current ultimate weapons all had afterglows on them. Looks like they'll have to add a new set of weapons to reflect lvl99s without afterglows which means that SE really intended to make ADL/PW/T6 VWNM (and all those requirements now on step2) the original way to reach lvl99 weapons.

'Don't forget your family, job, community or friends' - Really SE? When you design trials like this no-life tier garbage, you spit upon your own words to the players and make mockery of your customers.

Sit down and play your own game before designing stupidity. Please.

[Clou777]

'Don't forget your family, job, community or friends' - Really SE? When you design trials like this no-life tier garbage, you spit upon your own words to the players and make mockery of your customers.

Sit down and play your own game before designing stupidity. Please.

VERY WELL SAID!

[Zumi]

The final level 99 trails should not be insane like they currently are on the test server.

Do not tell me doing dynamis for 3 years straight with 17 other people going everyday for 3 years to get a Yellow glow effect on my character and 15 or so accuracy boost to my party is worth that much work.

Killing 500 PWs would take close to 10 years of playing and farming znm/plates.

What the level 99 weapon trails should be something reasonable and a nice way to finish off the 3 weapon trail lines. The glow is fine even if a lot of people end up getting it. Its is a nice little bonus for people who already did all these tedious trails and stuck with the FFXI for a long time. The circle effect isn't all that game braking or great but still does not warrant an insane trail. The only one that is in the realm of possibility is the Empyrean one, then you have to be really rich and hope people keep on doing voidwatch so you can buy the 3000 items needed.

Should of been a reasonable trail and you get rewarded, here is a neat little glow effect for yourself and a circle effect for your friends who may of helped you along the way for finishing all trails good job and a nice way to wrap up that quest chain.

I hope the devs realize putting in insane almost impossible to finish quest will make more people quit playing your game then stick around to try and do them. Also it has the effect of pissing off your customers so they would be unlikely to buy another online game from Square Enix.

Here I'll do your job for you SE

Relic 99 (afterglow) - 5 Arch Dynamis Lord kills. - ADL is still no pushover but this way at least people with relics can team up to take him down and you could bring your friends to help as well nothing too insane about 5 kills and everyone can get trial credit.

Mythic 99 (afterglow) 3 Pandemonium Warden kills. A reasonable amount of kills with all the zeni and lower tier NMs. In game friends probably be up to helping you get these kills.

Empyrean 99 (afterglow) 50 VW Tier6 drops. Why only 50 drops, each weapon had a huge collection phase so far, relics currency, mythics alex, empyrean plates on the 95. So 50 drops off the new VW doesn't seem all that bad and you can buy them from people not upgrading and its still a fair number of fights.

[Runespider]

I'm a pretty optimistic guy, but it is starting to look like even to me they want to discourage people to get them to play another game. The question is why would they do that? Even now, it still makes them a good amount of money.

Because it competes with their new failed crappy MMO that everyone hates? I swear they are trying to do everything they can to crap on XI atm, they put a guy they know we all hate in charge and that was directly responsible for XIV being shit (might as well of put Osama bin Laden in charge for how much the playerbase hates his ideas) and make almost everything more horrible just as they are working on V2. They must think we are all dumbasses to fall for it, to hell with them...if they turn me off FFXI there are other MMO's. Screw FFXIV and their manipulative shennanigans, this isn't FFXI > FFXIV, it's FFXI > anthing > FFXVI and they don't get it.

We aren't all just going to move over to FFXVI if they ruin FFXI.

Legion better be good, seriously. They are on the last chance for a lot of players with how we have been treated since captain barance doned his cape again.

[Tamoa]

I admit I haven't read every single post on every single forum regarding the 99 weapon trials, but what I have gathered is this:

On the test server, if you try to undertake a trial for a 99 empyrean/mythic/relic, the trial moogle tells you to obtain 3000/100/300 items accordingly, right? SE has said there are 2 stages for a finished 99 weapon, without telling us flat out what exactly the different stages involve. We are all assuming those 3000/100/300 items are for the 2nd and final stage. Why isn't the moogle on the test server giving people the 1st stage trial then? And yes, I know it's the test server, with all its bugs/unfinished stuff and whatnot, and I'm hoping that's why.

But then again, at this stage I have to say I'm expecting the worst.

As for my thoughts about these trials - well all I can say is the following: complete and utter idiocy. A total waste of dev time and players time.

Sparthos says it best:

'Don't forget your family, job, community or friends' - Really SE? When you design trials like this no-life tier garbage, you spit upon your own words to the players and make mockery of your customers.

[Hercule]

You guys have to learn that we CAN'T always get everything in life, same in FFXI, if you get everything you want, you will be bored

It's important to keep an impossible dream somewhere.
It was the voice of reason

[Tamoa]

You guys have to learn that we CAN'T always get everything in life, same in FFXI, if you get everything you want you will be bored

It was the voice of reason

Yeah ok. So it's reasonable to give the players a trial that LITERALLY will take years to complete and requires not only your own time but the time of X amount of other players too, just to finish ONE single weapon???

Oh and hey, pssst - FFXI isn't real life. It's A GAME. Why shouldn't everything we want in a GAME be obtainable for us? It's not a matter of easy mode and wanting everything given to us for free, far from it. Personally I have no problem whatsoever working hard towards a goal in game. But this? This is taking it way too far and is borderline insane.

[Hercule]

Yeah ok. So it's reasonable to give the players a trial that LITERALLY will take years to complete and requires not only your own time but the time of X amount of other players too, just to finish ONE single weapon???

Oh and hey, pssst - FFXI isn't real life. It's A GAME. Why shouldn't everything we want in a GAME be obtainable for us? It's not a matter of easy mode and wanting everything given to us for free, far from it. Personally I have no problem whatsoever working hard towards a goal in game. But this? This is taking it way too far and is borderline insane.

Like it is for some IRL party of dungeon & dragon "paper RPG",
I beleive FFXI and server will stay up a realy long time, SE dont have any reason to turn off servers if there is people to play and till they're frequently adding new content i dont see any reason to stop playing it for myself,
So if you have 10 years+ to done slowly at your rythm your achievment, i think its just good like it