Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[pim-ptarutaru]

I don't know what's up with you kids; SE already removed the time delay on the FoV, in which, I was able to solo 5~6k xp per hour as BRD. This idea will just create more and more leechies...

Thats exactly what I said in another post lol

[Kuishen]

LOL this is so true. did a simple seal run and the blm we had for triggers was just spam nuking/aoe while we were fighting NMs and kept hitting other mobs... was still able to kill nm but took longer then needed... He said he was sorry he got his 1st job to 90 an hour b4 joining our group. Told us that he went 30-90 in abyssea... so I do not support this thread because there are always new players andif all they do is leech... we are all going to be in trouble lol...

Yes cause leeching was his only problem... Get out of this thread.

[GERM]

But I really just cannot read past 3 or 4 lines of anything you post when there are no line or paragraph breaks. It's just a huge wall of text and whatever idea you may be trying to convey with it is lost in a giant pile of words. It would immensely help in the communication of your ideas if you were to break your thoughts up into paragraphs and complete sentences when posting.

I apologize, i will go back and edit it I do understand what your saying..

and we cannot judge to let the people who can grasp the concept of a job have an advantage over the person who doesn't understand the dynamics of a job..

it means sarcasm, I was stressing that instead of learning a job just change the game dynamics so that you don't have to learn how to play but you play because you can get from 1 - 99 and don't get the experience and learn from the mistakes you made..

BLMs don't AoE in exp parties

your correct your not suppose to do that unless your in a BLM burn party and it works but then again I don't have to explain that to you because you already know from experience how to play BLM.. 2 not just blm im talking about any job that has AoE, if a person gets a new AoE for the first time they are going to want to try it because its new and cool and I would rather they did that at level 30 and MPK the party then at 90 and MPK the party that just spent a full set of pop items or KI either and waste it..

Your posts are causing my IQ to drop, I have RDM SAM THF NIN levelled and I could pick up BRD in an instant with no support job background and know how to gear it and be excellent at the job in a matter of hours

your IQ dropped because you chose to read this with a closed mind and not from a unbias perspective, 2 I didn't insult your post I made the comment about a generalization of people that may or may not exist to this degree.. no person actually makes your IQ drop it was just a phrase used, but I have played with people that don't understand a concept of a job and it makes you want to pull your hair out explaining something over and over when they could and should of learned this way before abyssea
you chose to take it as you wanted and reply with an insult
2 you can learn to do this because you have experience with BRDS but like you said it would take a matter of hours to do it then again BRD isn't a great example thats a pretty simple job to play considering the leader tells you what songs they want and its not too hard to sit and play a song.. pull.. play a song.. pull.. extra extra then again if your leeching you won't know anything about the pull concept as a brd but you can sit there and tell me from your experience that your capable of doing it in a matter of a few hours, so hats off to you sir.. stop taking my posts personally Im just trying to give my argument of why vs why not

[pim-ptarutaru]

Yes cause leeching was his only problem... Get out of this thread.

Na I think i'll stay because people like you make me laugh

[Mrbeansman]

I apologize, i will go back and edit it I do understand what your saying..


it means sarcasm, I was stressing that instead of learning a job just change the game dynamics so that you don't have to learn how to play but you play because you can get from 1 - 99 and don't get the experience and learn from the mistakes you made..

your correct your not suppose to do that unless your in a BLM burn party and it works but then again I don't have to explain that to you because you already know from experience how to play BLM.. 2 not just blm im talking about any job that has AoE, if a person gets a new AoE for the first time they are going to want to try it because its new and cool and I would rather they did that at level 30 and MPK the party then at 90 and MPK the party that just spent a full set of pop items or KI either and waste it..

your IQ dropped because you chose to read this with a closed mind and not from a unbias perspective, 2 I didn't insult your post I made the comment about a generalization of people that may or may not exist you chose to take it as you wanted and reply with an insult
2 you can learn to do this because you have experience with BRDS but like you said it would take a matter of hours to do it then again BRD isn't a great example thats a pretty simple job to play considering the leader tells you what songs they want and its not too hard to sit and play a song.. pull.. play a song.. pull.. extra extra then again if your leeching you won't know anything about the pull concept as a brd but you can sit there and tell me from your experience that your capable of doing it in a matter of a few hours, so hats off to you sir.. stop taking my posts personally Im just trying to give my argument of why vs why not

I find your name appropriate for this discussion.

[GERM]

He said he was sorry he got his 1st job to 90 an hour b4 joining our group. Told us that he went 30-90 in abyssea

what server are you on? I think i played with this guy

[pim-ptarutaru]

what server are you on? I think i played with this guy

Odin Server ^_^v

[Kuishen]

it means sarcasm, I was stressing that instead of learning a job just change the game dynamics so that you don't have to learn how to play but you play because you can get from 1 - 99 and don't get the experience and learn from the mistakes you made..

How you get that out of what you wrote is beyond me, but moving on.

your correct your not suppose to do that unless your in a BLM burn party and it works but then again I don't have to explain that to you because you already know from experience how to play BLM.. 2 not just blm im talking about any job that has AoE, if a person gets a new AoE for the first time they are going to want to try it because its new and cool and I would rather they did that at level 30 and MPK the party then at 90 and MPK the party that just spent a full set of pop items or KI either and waste it..

If you're inviting somebody who is JUST getting an AoE to help you with an NM, then you are doing something seriously wrong. BLM gets AoEs at level 30ish, and every AoE ws is got around level 50-60, excluding the new ws which if anybody tries that on an NM then you're playing with stupid people.

Also, does it look like I have BLM leveled?

your IQ dropped because you chose to read this with a closed mind and not from a unbias perspective, 2 I didn't insult your post I made the comment about a generalization of people that may or may not exist you chose to take it as you wanted and reply with an insult
2 you can learn to do this because you have experience with BRDS but like you said it would take a matter of hours to do it then again BRD isn't a great example thats a pretty simple job to play considering the leader tells you what songs they want and its not too hard to sit and play a song.. pull.. play a song.. pull.. extra extra then again if your leeching you won't know anything about the pull concept as a brd but you can sit there and tell me from your experience that your capable of doing it in a matter of a few hours, so hats off to you sir.. stop taking my posts personally Im just trying to give my argument of why vs why not

So basically, your entire argument is if a player has been living under a rock and not played with any other jobs and gotten to 90 he won't know how to play his job if he leeched? Well I'm not going to argue that because you might be correct. Problem is that just doesn't happen.

All of your arguments hinge on you playing with stupid people in general, not with people that leech. Leeching does not cause stupidity, it was already there, it may just give them opportunity to use it sooner.

EDIT: Meaning that no matter how they get to 90, they're still going to be stupid unless they decide to actually look up how to play their job.

[Gunit]

Meaning that no matter how they get to 90, they're still going to be stupid unless they decide to actually look up how to play their job.

Doesn't matter if you leach or not this is the only thing that matters.

[HFX7686]

This idea is slightly, if not totally ridiculous. To even relish the thought is ludicrous. Abyssea is currently fine as is, it does not need any level changes, and if it did, the cap should go up, not down.

If there is no logical reason for the entry requirement to go down there probably is no logical reason for it to go up too.