[To The Devs/Players] STOP ABYSSEA POWERLEVELING FOR GIL

[Michae]

It was like that for years. Its only different in abyssea because of the way the exp system works in there.

Yeah they could easily code this to work in aby too tho I am sure. It cant really be that hard if they do it on every other map, they just chose not to.

I wouldnt pay either, with the shear amount of exp per hr you can get in aby you have to be one hell of a lazy sob to actually pay to leech. Just start your own pt and key.

As for mana/smn burns, Ive never seen a leech in either of these, everyone had something to contribute, whether it was pulling, holding, being the sync or whatever. The only time you didnt have to do anything was if you were being 'paid' for pulling via exp or if you were a smn in a mana burn pt sitting there with diablos' favor up for refresh. That was just my exp.

[Kimble]

Yeah they could easily code this to work in aby too tho I am sure. It cant really be that hard if they do it on every other map, they just chose not to.

I wouldnt pay either, with the shear amount of exp per hr you can get in aby you have to be one hell of a lazy sob to actually pay to leech. Just start your own pt and key.

As for mana/smn burns, Ive never seen a leech in either of these, everyone had something to contribute, whether it was pulling, holding, being the sync or whatever. The only time you didnt have to do anything was if you were being 'paid' for pulling via exp or if you were a smn in a mana burn pt sitting there with diablos' favor up for refresh. That was just my exp.

3 smns, 1 level sync, 2 free spots to leach.

1-3 of the SMNs in the party pull on another account.

[Javarr]

Honestly, let'em do whatever they want. Let'em leech up all they want, clear to 99 as far as I'm concerned. But once we finally come totally out of Abyssea, they will be noticed. 10:1 says that most of the people that were QQing over G10 being hard were those "Leech specials".

The real problem is when people do this and then don't even take the time to go out and learn their job or even take hte time to skill their weapons/magic. ( Looking at random NIN that was asked to tank a mob and they replied that they only had a 100 katana skill @.@;;; )

Like I said, as endgame shifts further and further away from Abyssea, The gap in power and ability will become apparent, and the strong (AKA: Knowing one's job, being skilled, and taking the time to have at least have a decent gear set) will be sifted from the chaff.

[RAIST]

starting to see a slightly different effect too....peeps that were stable at 75 getting too used to running around in abyssea with all the buffs up. Then get in the outside world and forget what it was like dealing with the constraints of the normal world and make noobish mistakes that maybe wouldn't have happened 2 years ago. Gotta recondition ourselves again.

[Sarick]

starting to see a slightly different effect too....peeps that were stable at 75 getting too used to running around in abyssea with all the buffs up. Then get in the outside world and forget what it was like dealing with the constraints of the normal world and make noobish mistakes that maybe wouldn't have happened 2 years ago. Gotta recondition ourselves again.

I donno about everyone else but, when the 99 cap came I decided to go and duo my items with my 2 accounts. DNC/WAR + WHM/SCH. Anyway I went to an area at level 95 both jobs and started attacking the mobs low and behold after checking them they where incredibly tough.

I checked there levels to be 99-103!! So my guess is not everyone knows how easy these mobs can be even outside abby. I was amazed that I was able to mow down enemies 8 levels higher then me with little or no issues back to back pulling. There was a lvl 95 thf/dnc behind me soloing these same mobs. These where giving 750exp a kill without exp boosters.

Makes you wonder how people can talk about noobs all the time. When I accidentally linked 3 of these same enemies and came out with little more then a scratch It came to reality that these guys must not be even trying. If these people are setup right with the right jobs,gear, skill and strategy almost anything can be taken down.

I used to only attack EP to DC mobs for skillup and laterally feared ITs. Now that I know the truth I realize that the ABBY boost aren't needed to fight the same difficulty mobs outside abby and it doesn't take a lot of gaming skill to do it.

The sincere truth for me is the power I gained in abby taught me to fight stronger mobs like I had the same buffs outside in regular zones. In my case abby reconditioned me to a higher standard instead of lowering me.

To OP... >>

To comment on the people selling EXP, I don't think it's outside the rules to sell spots because it's not RMT trading. It's gil for exp, not RL money for exp. The only real annoyance is the constant spamming of these guys. A quick remidy is /blacklist <name> rectifies the spamming real quick.. Other then that, if you don't want to pay for a spot It's your money you don't have to exp that way. If you want to show you're not a noob make an exp party and get players who aren't leechs instead of complaining about an honest service someone else is exploiting.

This makes me think about the people complaining about businesses selling porn on the internet for money. Sure it's not morally correct but it's currently legal and is what helped the internet grow. I can say the same for people who are told NO or can't find low level party's to level up subs. In this case a service like this is helpful because the providers don't care about skill, your standing or what job you are. They're only interested in your gil not elitist holding you back from getting efficient exp.

On a side note, these people paying had to earn that gil someway. They're just converting the time they invested making that gil into exp. What's the problem? I guess people who level this way are horrible players. Solution to that is also simple remove them from party and tell them to pay someone to help them get better gear/skill ups. Since they invested so much in leeching why can't they invest in skillups and better gear the same way?

[Xantavia]

starting to see a slightly different effect too....peeps that were stable at 75 getting too used to running around in abyssea with all the buffs up. Then get in the outside world and forget what it was like dealing with the constraints of the normal world and make noobish mistakes that maybe wouldn't have happened 2 years ago. Gotta recondition ourselves again.

I've noticed this especially when it comes to whm or blu. Without all the different forms of refresh, they blow through mp so fast they become useless halfway through the fight.

[Runespider]

I've noticed this especially when it comes to whm or blu. Without all the different forms of refresh, they blow through mp so fast they become useless halfway through the fight.

Whm used to be quite a difficult job to play well and a good whm was a real rarity, most of the whms around now in stuff like VW ride the temp items but in content without this stuff it's gonna be really tough to get good healers. good whm was always about knowing when to rest and conserve mp.

[Alkimi]

I've noticed this especially when it comes to whm or blu. Without all the different forms of refresh, they blow through mp so fast they become useless halfway through the fight.

Using BLM support job because they can't be arsed to level SCH really doesn't help, not having AF3+2 legs is also a major setback.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Using BLM support job because they can't be arsed to level SCH really doesn't help, not having AF3+2 legs is also a major setback.

Indeed! WHM has great MP control /SCH and with AF3+2 Legs.

[Crawlerbasher]

All the Devs need to do is incress the lvl entry from 30 to 75.
I suggested this before, but ppl say it would ruin the game for them as there do quest in abyssaa with there lvl 30 carracter.
Personally I don't see what different doing a quest in abyssaa with a lvl 30 job or a lvl 75 job.

While having the entry level at 75, would not stop these power levelers.
It would mean new players and old who want a job leveling up would have to do it the normal way and gain not just exp but exp of there job.

But this would bring about SMN Burn partys (Again).

There is not much you can do about ppl leeching, but at least the smn burn party is slower.