Who ever got six-person parties in the first place?

[Meyi]

I wouldn't use the letting people die, I do that all the time with people that refuse to listen when I tell them not run to far off to solo their own mobs. I also do it to wars that think they can FC when we are not doing a FC and im the only healer or the only whm.

There's nothing wrong with running off to solo. I prefer soloing my monsters as black mage, actually. If I get low on health and want a cure I will come back to the white mage. If not, I know how to use Potions, Dusty Elixirs, and Convert/Manawall/Manafont/Manawell to my advantage. In that kind of situation if I die I only blame myself.

I was referring more to a certain white mage level 70+ I know who only cured himself once an entire 3 hour long GoV party. Of course he died several times as well as the rest of the party. This is an example of a leech healer.

[FrankReynolds]

Maybe you guys could apply another derogatory term like mediocre, or shitty, or lame, or noob. Leeching implies that the other person isn't contributing, but rather just reaping the rewards. Pink people contribute, and in all likelihood work just as hard as the well geared. They just don't contribute as much due to shitty gear / skills. There's always going to be 1 guy who has better gear than anyone else. That doesn't mean everyone else is a leech (it's very unlikely that that guy soloed all his gear, or merits either, so he was a "leech" at some point too). When you say leech in this sense, it sounds like your describing a level 30 whm mule who is not using keys.

[Cream_Soda]

If you reap more reward than what you contribute, it is a parasitic relationship. Leech works just fine.

[FrankReynolds]

If you reap more reward than what you contribute, it is a parasitic relationship. Leech works just fine.

Then every player in the game is a leech. Kinda makes calling someone a leech meaningless.

[Alhanelem]

This times 4000

That times negative 839758934. People who are leveling up jobs for the first time aren't going to have uberl33t gear. That doesn't mean they aren't contributing by putting their best effort forward. They are NOT leeching unless they are specifically doing nothing.

By your definition, every player that isn't as good as you is a "leech." Leech is a negative derogatory term aimed at someone who is not contributing to something and only there to get something for nothing.

People who are fighting, actively playing, even if its their first job and pink is all they have, are not leeching.

Then every player in the game is a leech. Kinda makes calling someone a leech meaningless.

THIS times 9000.

[Cream_Soda]

If you want to be technical, leech is a term for an animal. Other than that, you have your definition for leech and I have mine. When I say leech, the majority of the people are going to know what I'm referring to. If you want to call it mediocre or any other word, that's fine by me, but I'm sticking to my guns

[JovialRat]

not that i miss the 6 party set up, i do miss the "getting to party with a small group of ppl" from lvl10 in the dunes, qufim, jungle and the desert. it was fun leveling up with ppl that way, you get to see them level up and vise ver sa. but for me thats the only thing i miss.
i didnt particularly liked LFP as a DRK back in the day.

[Greatguardian]

Protip guys: Most players in this game are leeches.

How do you think the majority of older linkshells were set up back in the day? You'd have one solid leader and about 4-5 core players who were actually good at the game, followed by 15-20 leeches who were there to fill up space and either link up bots or fill out the alliance.

The "Hurr Durr I'm helping even though I'm contributing less than 5% of what the guy next to me is" sentiment is bullshit. Oh, it's the thought that counts you say? Also bullshit. Yes, you're right, this makes the vast majority of players leeches. And you know what? That's very true. The vast majority of players just leech off of the strengths and aptitude of those around them. These are the same people who couldn't beat the god damn level break, you realize this right?

I could give a shit less if 14 people in the alliance are actually attacking things if their combined damage comes out to less than 20% of mine. When that happens, everyone there is leeching off of me - they're reaping rewards from my effort while contributing absolutely nothing of value in return. That is a leech, pure and simple. Do I mind people leeching off me these days? Not really. It's not like it's hurting me all too much considering it's much harder to find another half-decent player to split the workload with than it is to just let people leech. But don't you dare try to infer that these people are pulling their weight. They are absolutely not.

You, Anal, and the cadre of freedom fighters on these boards are the ones giving the most severely negative connotation to the word leech. No one else cares if people leech. We simply care that you recognize that you're leeching, rather than pretending that your shit doesn't stink.

If a player on their first 99 didn't want to leech, they'd go out and farm a bajillion gil and get some uberleet gear and atmas and abyssites before setting foot in an exp party. If they wanted to pull their weight, they'd need to prepare themselves to pull their own god damn weight. Sitting around making up excuses for doing 0.5% of the parse is bullshit. That's a leech, and if they have a problem with being a leech then they can get the fuck out and go home.

Everyone leeches. Damn near everyone's a leech. If you're not pulling your weight, accept that and move the fuck on. We certainly don't care. We exp anyways. But you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If you want to be proud of yourself, then be something you can actually be proud of - otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air.

[Koroma]

It took blanking forever but i got 6 man pties yeah though my best memories are of bst not needing pties but thats kinda off topic.

[FrankReynolds]

OK, seriously guys. Where are you meriting at that damage is an issue these day? I spend half my time in merit / xp parties running around trying to find something to kill because the shit dies so fast.