Nerfing Ukko/Vsmite so lazy players can be more useful?

[mattkoko]

I don't agree with the nerfs either but i also do not agree with being called lazy because i do not level an empy weapon. real life>then empy weapon, thank you

[Hayward]

This thread is so backwards in logic, it's beyond description. I really shouldn't muster any sympathy for WAR & MNK Empyrean users' weapon skills being scaled back but this pattern of reducing players' damage potential overall is getting out of control. This whole situation has NOTHING to do with any form of "laziness", however. If anything, S-E should be condemned for not bringing all other non-Empyrean Weapon Skills close to where the Empyreans were (or not allowing non-Empyrean owners access to the Weapon Skills themselves like Mythics, for that matter).

The laziness you seek to call out lies in the development room of S-E, not in the non-elite players.

[Siiri]

I have an emp weapon, so I guess I am not lazy in the OP definition of lazy. Regardless, let me make the opposite argument, that some who pick Ukko/Vsmite are the lazy ones. They bandwagon the latest hot job up, because they don't have the knowledge or skill or passion to pick a job and try to make it great. They need broken game mechanics to ever win a parse. My first DD was mnk back when it wasn't cool, I remember working and gearing my butt off in salvage, etc to outdd the bandwagons sams. The time I beat all the SAMs in an einherjar parse was a great day for me at 75. I actually started to enjoy MNK a lot less during the abyssea era, because it seemed so easy. Took the fun out. Plus my beloved job was now the bandwagon DD I had strived to beat. If you love WAR though for WAR, you will overcome this. You will still be a top DD, probably still the best if you gear/play the job right.

[svengalis]

99% of being a good player is swapping gear well, slight adjustment but otherwise the right sentiment.

I have a few Empyreans, but I'm making a Relic now because I feel like it. Neither are that hard. Mythics are a whole other beast, though.

Swapping gear makes you a good player? LOL I am pretty sure most of you use windower to do those gear swaps. How does having a program swap gear for you make YOU a good player? LOL

[svengalis]

If you dun like the nerf you can rage quit.




But, I think you won't. No until you find another game to spend your time on.

Totally off topic. But if you guys want a good story based MMO Star Wars the old republic is pretty good.

[svengalis]

The only thing that really pisses me off about this is that this also affects WoE holders. For those of us who did these trials going down the WoE path: the only great thing about those weapons was the Weapon Skill. Now that these weapon skills are going to be nerfed, this will give people even less of a reason to do WoE. I really feel like I wasted so much time on some weapons that will be in a few months time totally useless.

[Vold]

Laziness is never farming gil or <insert something considered "work" aka you DO NOT want to do whatsoever>. Being anti social or lacking the ability to dual box by whatever means is never farming an Empyrean. There's a distinct difference between the two.

Also, maybe they're just nerfing stuff because it's long overdue. If you're really pissed about this and don't get over it fast and stay pissed, it's probably because you know you were overpowered. Jeez, it's not like Ukko's Fury is going to be doing Raging Rush/Rampage damage post nerfs. I'm not pleased that they go back on their word and that PR ends up being just that but whatever. I know this stuff is overpowered when I still destroy things outside Abyssea.

[svengalis]

Laziness is never farming gil or <insert something considered "work" aka you DO NOT want to do whatsoever>. Being anti social or lacking the ability to dual box by whatever means is never farming an Empyrean. There's a distinct difference between the two.

Exactly, don't know why the topic creator felt the need to insult us the player base because SQUARE ENIX decided that Warrior and Monk are too powerful. I wish Square Enix wouldn't nerf jobs. I wish Square Enix would make Monk and Ranger how they were when they were first introduced but life isn't fair. We all can't get what we want. It kills me how SE trys to go for realism in a game where there's flying airships and birds you ride that can't fly.(Again talking about ranger nerf, was so disappointed when I found out what has become of ranger when I restarted last year)

[Tsuneo]

Swapping gear makes you a good player? LOL I am pretty sure most of you use windower to do those gear swaps. How does having a program swap gear for you make YOU a good player? LOL

Swapping gear does make you a good player. You must be one of those people that think there's skill involved in a game that's about mashing macros.

[Kimble]

I'm more confused by how you think there is something that magically knows what gear to change for you without you having to tell it what to change.