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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    I'll lay it out for you brotha.

    21 STP during WS with a 504 delay GA like Perdu Voulge (13.7 base TP) from Brutal, Rajas, and /SAM gives:
    16.5 TP from the main swing
    17.7 TP if you land one extra hit
    18.9 TP if you land two extra hits
    20.1 TP if you land three extra hits
    21.3 TP if you land four extra hits (2 DAs)

    I did a lot of Raging Rushes in Abyssea with 34% Double Attack and 0% Triple Attack during Visions of Abyssea and never saw a 3-DA return (should have been a 3% chance with capped Acc).

    Myth busted.
    That explained a lot, I never thought to apply the Store TP value to the additional hits. Although that brings up more questions..

    This model skips 19 TP return, which I have quite often. If you applied the Store TP values before rounding down to 13.7 (13.72) then it would skip 18, which I also have very often, most actually. But it does make sense, I'll just have to pay more attention now that I know and see my results. Although I just added more Store TP with Ravager's Lorica +2, so the progression should be 17 > 18 > 20 > 21 > 22. So if I see any 19 TP returns I'll come bother you again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    That explained a lot, I never thought to apply the Store TP value to the additional hits. Although that brings up more questions..

    This model skips 19 TP return, which I have quite often. If you applied the Store TP values before rounding down to 13.7 (13.72) then it would skip 18, which I also have very often, most actually. But it does make sense, I'll just have to pay more attention now that I know and see my results. Although I just added more Store TP with Ravager's Lorica +2, so the progression should be 17 > 18 > 20 > 21 > 22. So if I see any 19 TP returns I'll come bother you again.
    Ok~! Remember that you probably don't use a 504 delay GA anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    That explained a lot, I never thought to apply the Store TP value to the additional hits. Although that brings up more questions..

    This model skips 19 TP return, which I have quite often. If you applied the Store TP values before rounding down to 13.7 (13.72) then it would skip 18, which I also have very often, most actually. But it does make sense, I'll just have to pay more attention now that I know and see my results. Although I just added more Store TP with Ravager's Lorica +2, so the progression should be 17 > 18 > 20 > 21 > 22. So if I see any 19 TP returns I'll come bother you again.
    Nor do you WS in ravagers Lorica!
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Ok~! Remember that you probably don't use a 504 delay GA anymore.
    I actually do. My playtime is too restricted lately to even begin to try for an Ukonvasara and even if it wasn't, grinding makes my soul die. I'm too much of a casual player these days to bother much with that. I even tried holding on to some scales when I got them randomly on some +2 farm, so I could turn them in eventually, but someone at SE headquarters had the glorious idea of not making them stackable. And my inv being a horror as it is, I decided to toss them again, so for now at least, Ukonvasara is out of the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Relyk View Post
    Nor do you WS in ravagers Lorica!
    I do as well for now. And until I get an affordable HQ Grim Cuirass I'll keep doing it too, or whatever else the next update has in store. Despite people's claims that gil is useless these days I actually have a good use for mine and I don't like blowing it on temporary items. If I got a Grim Cuirass just a while ago I would have lost several million already, and at this point I would want to sell it again. I don't mind gimping it out for a while for the greater good, I play too casually to care too much at this point, especially with lots of free and easy to get gear that's still great and will hold me over till the game stabilizes again.
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