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    Player Zero-Hour's Avatar
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    I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

    There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.
    Who don't have any of the sought after jobs leveled or who are just not comfortable in large groups who will *never* be able to break 95.

    Those laughing off the fight as "easy" when people are complaining of 0/x attempts really don't help.

    All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

    Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

    Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

    I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

    Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.

    I only hope that SE include a re-think of this when they impliment the level break revision announced for sometime next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-Hour View Post

    All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

    Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

    Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

    I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

    Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what im trying to highlight. Unfortunately for me, I have a severe case of not being able to type anything I actually want to say so im glad this fine fellow has said everything he has.

    Im not against challenging fights but you've got to think about the long term affect of a battle like this. Especially when its a central part of character advancement. I can safely say that three monks and a summoner make this fight stupid. But I think I lucked out on people who needed the cap. If you review the census findings im pretty sure the job balance isnt 3:1 in favour of monks?
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    Player Morier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-Hour View Post
    I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

    There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.
    I did it in a shout group, no items, it was easy. Stop crying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morier View Post
    I did it in a shout group, no items, it was easy. Stop crying.
    So did I. Doesn't mean that my shout group wasnt 3 monks and a summoner though.What got you through? I doubt it was all the jobs no one wanted?
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    I will say I did go 1/10 until I won...all where shout parties.....
    Despite the many loses.....alot of us had fun through out it....it was fun....you couldn't do a "leroy jenkins" and expect to win...I will say it is MUCH different then say abyssea since you are no longer in God Mode. I enjoyed it....

    Of course I guess if you was someone who came to game around abyssea you could get aggrovated at this.....
    For people who was playing game pre-abyssea...I'd figure would enjoy the fight since it's something that can't be done by just by having the job leveled or having atmas to make up for it....
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    Player Zero-Hour's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morier View Post
    I did it in a shout group, no items, it was easy. Stop crying.
    And I am sure that when you stood there looking for a party in your Full emp +2 with relic weapon and 20/20 jobs to choose from with years of party experience you found no problem finding another group of like people to walk through the fight with like it was swatting an annoying fly on your route to god-hood.

    Some of us don't have any of that.

    I don't count it as crying, but merely asking for a chance for the non-elite non-deities.

    Try standing there in two months time wearing perle and see how far you get.
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    Last edited by Zero-Hour; 12-20-2011 at 09:48 AM.

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    work harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-Hour View Post
    I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

    There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.
    Who don't have any of the sought after jobs leveled or who are just not comfortable in large groups who will *never* be able to break 95.

    Those laughing off the fight as "easy" when people are complaining of 0/x attempts really don't help.


    All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

    Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

    Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

    I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

    Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.

    I only hope that SE include a re-think of this when they impliment the level break revision announced for sometime next year.
    The THF in ym PT was full aurore gear

    PLD had a Koenig Shield and full perl.

    I was the only one with the MNK that geared swap.

    The reason we won was because the leader (the monk) annoyed people about what to do and made sure they understand. You guys that sucks are like kids we need to take you by the hand or else you won't do anything.

    Stop blaming square you wipe you suck the fight is easy
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