Newest interview (abyssea was a mistake?)

[geekgirl101]

Want to know what is killing this game? Giving everyone everything they want when they want it and making every other job useless. Back 5 years ago everyone (or almost everyone) had a role in a party. WHMs healed, BLMs nuked very carefully while watching their threat, did elemental enfeebles, and timed big nukes for magic bursting, melee DPS would time their weapon skills in order to create skillchains, THFs would line up behind tanks or "SATA buddies" in order to set up for SATA, RDMs were there to refresh anyone with MP and kept up with hastes, enfeebles, back-up heals, and did a little nuking if they had MP, BRDs and CORs were there to buff people with special buffs.

Almost everyone had a role and that got destroyed with Abyssea. RDMs are no longer a requirement to keep mages refreshed because abyssites are much more powerful, and they aren't a requirement for enfeebles because WHM and BLM enfeebles work just as well with little to no resistance. BLMs are only required to create azure lights and proc yellow. BRDs aren't required for anything other than proc yellow, so BLMs having little else to do sub BRD in order to proc both BLM and BRD spells. THFs aren't required to proc NM drops because those are now done by procc'ing blue, during half the fight they're stood there doing nothing with the rest of the DPS because the NMs need to be procc'd first before it can be killed or they give too much TP. Melee DPS rarely ever attempt at skillchaining in fear that they kill the mob with their weaponskills and results in creating ruby light, this fear of procc'ing ruby means that most DPS have never had the chance to skillchain and have gotten used to just spamming their TP whenever they feel like it.

Then SE dropped the requirements to enter Abyssea. No more venturing deep into WotG missions and being level 70+, you can now go there just by visiting the maws at level 30 and leech xp all the way to 99, not getting to play your job and become familiar with any of the abilities until late on after you've already gimped several parties for not knowing how to play, and not having developed any decent skills which you then have to spend countless hours or even days skilling up fighting crabs and lizards and running endless self-casting macros while you sleep.

So much of the game has been lost. People say that GoV was an excellent move because it means you no longer have to be xyz class in order to partake in a party. But what about all the joys that made you feel that you were genuinely contributing to a group and that each battle was a small challenge to defeat and chain the next fight? And what about at the end of it when your class feels just as useless as it sits there waiting for yellow, red and blue procs before you can engage or you're told to just watch because you'd feed too much TP?

Now while I'm saying that Abyssea broke a lot of the old game I'm not saying that the old game was overall good either. There was a lot of drawbacks to the old game such as the endless waiting around for a party invite, always being stumped because there was no tanks/healers/refreshers flagged for a party, not being able to get in a party because your job wasn't deemed suitable (DRGs and BSTs just never got invited), struggling to find camps in popular zones or having that one super-awesome group nearby that was claiming 5 mobs to your 1. SE could've done better, Abyssea just did too much change imo.

[FrankReynolds]

meh, the old party thing sucked. I used to get friends to play this game, but 2 months later when they are still level 60, have no cop, and no zilart mmissions done, no money, and can't go do any of the end game stuff that I spend all my nights doing.... their like "why the hell do you play this Sh*t? this game sucks!".

Then I would tell them "Nah man, i swear, when I finish p leveling you, and helping you with all those missions, your gonna have tons of fun camping HNM with me.".


Now new players can participate in events with older players after just a couple of days. Like it or not, it makes the game a lot friendlier to new player, and returning players.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Man peeps delude themselves that the game didn't need a change in direction just ask your self one thing how many peeps are duo, triple, quad or more boxing to keep this thing alive lol. Abyssea gave the game new life nothing more nothing less the old ways are dead bury them. So many mules in this game that use to be real players it's not funny y'all peeps crying about Abyssea know it's true lmao MMO of mules is what was happening without a change and Abyssea at least got real people playing again. Cry me a river about leveling the game had become stale and as much fun as watching paint dry 200 people trying to claim one mob playing who has the best bot was awesome. Nothing like spending 3 hours waiting for a spawn to be botted YAWN!!! old school sucked hard new school allowed the fun back in I admit after 8 years of the old school its about damn time to change it up and make the game fun and exciting again.....

[Ilax]

Want to know what is killing this game?

Chapter 1: 2002 ish
SE made us hard work 6yr long hunting a dream that never came true.

Chapter 2: Abyssea
All hard worked gear, relic, mythic turned trash by Abyssea content, not RIVAL, i say TRASH.

Chapter 3: December 2011
SE want to make us work hard again, a new nightmare born!!!! The evilness side of Tanaka is back!!! But don't worry because he told us that he will reduce difficulty again to please casual player. huh? really?

Man... I am so happy to have to kill the new DL 1,000 time for +1 dmg on Mandau, ya that real worth it when i know that goign to take me 2yr, and in 2yr SE will reduce it to 5 HQ DL, or wait, maybe they going to make Chapter 4: Abyssea part 2, and make all our hard worked gear trash again ^^

Tanaka.... PPL had TRUST in you before you trashed all our hard work gear, now you ask us to do it again??? What kind of evil person are you...

[Kimble]

Honestly, its not like they could have gone to 99 without old gearing turning into outdate gear.

If we would have had the same gear and just more side grades from 75-99, I'm sure most people why have left a long time ago.

Hell, 90-99 has mostly been side gear.

[Ilax]

Kinda doubt on that, ZM, COP, AU, altena was all side gear, and player was enjoying the challenge, Abyssea could give Rival gear to please casual player, it also open the door to experience new job without need to spend 6yr into it. It could also give some special hard work gear to please hardcore player.

Imo the entire 75 to 99 was a big mistake so is abyssea erassing all hard worked gear.

[Ravenmore]

Kinda doubt on that, ZM, COP, AU, altena was all side gear, and player was enjoying the challenge, Abyssea could give Rival gear to please casual player, it also open the door to experience new job without need to spend 6yr into it. It could also give some special hard work gear to please hardcore player.

Imo the entire 75 to 99 was a big mistake so is abyssea erassing all hard worked gear.

Yeah it was. Only thing was really out of reach of casual player was king drops but a couple of mil could get any adj you wanted every thing else had cool down timers. Limbus, enhj, dnya all could only be done 2 times a week. ZNM limiting factor was people willing to waste their time farming Pics for almost all sidegrade. How many kirins were killed and all is non-W.legs adjs hit the floor at 75. Still doesn't matter I know some that quit over noct mail being better then their hauby +1 for sam back when it was added its not even a common thing to see. If you leave gear from any event the best for to long it just becomes stagnation.

[Ilax]

Yeah it was. Only thing was really out of reach of casual player was king drops but a couple of mil could get any adj you wanted every thing else had cool down timers. Limbus, enhj, dnya all could only be done 2 times a week. ZNM limiting factor was people willing to waste their time farming Pics for almost all sidegrade. How many kirins were killed and all is non-W.legs adjs hit the floor at 75. Still doesn't matter I know some that quit over noct mail being better then their hauby +1 for sam back when it was added its not even a common thing to see. If you leave gear from any event the best for to long it just becomes stagnation.

You know what probably frustrate me the most in all that? They made abyssea gear destroy all those event, then DEV spend they whole time to fix the issue with those event (Dyna, hnm, ect..) when the gear is totally outdated.

I wish someone would explain me why... just why they fix the fun stuff when is pointless to do it anymore. Hopefully is not what waiting us with VW, but... we all know....

[SpankWustler]

You know what probably frustrate me the most in all that? They made abyssea gear destroy all those event, then DEV spend they whole time to fix the issue with those event (Dyna, hnm, ect..) when the gear is totally outdated.

I wish someone would explain me why... just why they fix the fun stuff when is pointless to do it anymore.

They later go back and update the drops as well.

Yeah, the stuff is situational and obviously meant to be macroed in and out, but it's not any more situational than most stuff from Voidwatch. That's one thing about equipment that hasn't changed in almost a decade.

[Ravenmore]

They should have killed all that gear gear along time ago and came out with fresh gear case in point how long was kitty pants the best legs for any non rng to tp in. Its not the fact they killed gear its they left it the best for far to long before doing something about it. If they had left the game at were it was pre-abyssea it would have kept bleending players and more mergers would be happening.

With a few tweaks to VW that the players have been asking for it would be far better. Even not giving us the option to pool gear adding a simple check to the chest and adding that ra/ex drop if the player already had it to another players loot would help and still keep most of the grind but it would at least appear that they are listening. Then there is the BS that taking blu into them is that would get me to go back. I don't maind using ever job I have but getting stuck on the one that no one wants to play cause the pain it is to play (proc all its there for) is not fun.