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    Sedna is a special case because he replaces his normal attacks with a TP move.

    Ironclads aren't that hard to time (maybe if you're trying to keep it still and timing spells is problematic).
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    Honestly, I prefer magic on Ironclads to WS. You get a much better/more stable vantage point for procs as a mage.
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    Oh yeah, that is true, I hate it so much when I'm amnesia'd half the time... but whoever doesn't have hate usually has it alot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Sedna spans like hell even with one person on it there's more mobs that do the same. Ironclads can also be problematic because of their tp moves and their regular attacks.
    [SIZE="6"]WHO FIGHTS SENDA MORE THAN ONCE ??!?[/SIZE]

    inb4 emp staff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    I think voidwatch is not as bad as a lot of people feel - it sure can use some improvement. Points system similar to nyzul, einherjar and assaults would be a great fix so that if you want the gears - you use points, and let the accessories armor drop as normal since these you can sell for good amount of gils. The developer is right for not allowing trading - otherwise most people will have the gears and stop doing voidwatch. Since you do not need to kill x amount of NMs for random seals, and more NMs for plus 2 items, voidwatch drop has to be rare. But point systems would easily fix this and make the armors obtainable via point systems. There are great things about abyssea and good things about old contents - the developer needs to be able to learn from the past 10 years and pick the best system and move FF11 forward for the next 5 years. Think of the paying costumers and the brand itself - and put aside egos, pride, and office politics.
    That is execly what i want to say.
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    What the hell is a spammy mob?
    examples are the Fly NM for carabosse pop that will spam WS if it gets Aeroga off. There are mobs like CC that do back to back WS. And of course if people didn't turn around they would feed mobs TP creating a Spam situation. Then you get into the mobs that have regular TP attacks accounting for WS. Lots of reason for anyone but the tank and procer to be involved.
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    Has anyone seriously had trouble procing CC... I mean, seriously.

    Seriously.
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    That stupid gigas NM for Briareus pop spams that Ranged Attack move every other attack, that is considered a TP move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirabelle View Post
    examples are the Fly NM for carabosse pop that will spam WS if it gets Aeroga off. There are mobs like CC that do back to back WS. And of course if people didn't turn around they would feed mobs TP creating a Spam situation. Then you get into the mobs that have regular TP attacks accounting for WS. Lots of reason for anyone but the tank and procer to be involved.
    Premise: CC and La Theine Leige can be hard to proc

    Conclusion: There are lots of reasons to have even more DDs than the tank/proc on the NM

    DOES NOT COMPUTE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Premise: CC and La Theine Leige can be hard to proc

    Conclusion: There are lots of reasons to have even more DDs than the tank/proc on the NM

    DOES NOT COMPUTE.
    There are no reasons to have anyone but a tank and proc'er on NM which is the argument for why DD's are always spending 90% of the time with their back turned waiting for red proc to go kill for 20 sec.

    Of course the following argument that there should only be a NIN/WAR/WHM on all NM's and everyone else is superfluous becomes apparent which means anyone without said jobs is SOL. So as a DD, either you spend 90% of your time with your back turned or you don't come as that job. This is still fundamentally an indictment of the Abyssea system for DD's (or any other non-tanking, non-healing, non-proc'ing job).

    Has anyone seriously had trouble procing CC... I mean, seriously.

    Seriously.
    Sure when the yellow proc is AM, and CC decides Mayhem lantern is his go to TP move.
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