Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Miera]

Are you saying that out of all of these "great deal" of people, nobody has once thought - even once - to shout in Jeuno to see if somebody wants to start a party? According to you, it's "not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it" and it's simply that they "can't find any" - so if you shout to create one, you should have people flooding in, no?

I've seen a guy trying to put together a non-abyssea party through shouting in Jeuno that took 30 minutes to form. He also got cussed and laughed at for wanting to form a Non abyssea party. =

[Ezikiel]

You were using as your anti-gear swap example that you are capable of killing some unnamed monsters without gear swaps, just as people with gearswaps are able to kill this same monster. By implication, you are suggesting that gearswapping provides no actual benefit because the end result is the same - victory.

I am using as my anti... ... well, anti-your example that I am capable of killing something without being level 90, just as people at level 90 are able to kill the same monster. I state that this shows that levelling up provides no actual benefit because the end result is the same - victory.

Obviously, my example is thoroughly absurd and is constructed to be ridiculous. I feel it is also ridiculous to claim that not gear swapping - playing as a hybrid - is as effective as gearswapping. Simple logic suggests that specialisation > hybridisation when there is no opportunity cost involved in specialisation.

Just admit you jumped in on a conversation and said something dumb. i said i would kill what ever they kill im sure they weren't going after anything level 5 dummy if you werent sure if they were ask them or red the whole post before you open your mouth and prove your ignorance again

[Ryland]

I agree, they should lower the entry level for abyssea to 1 instead of 30. Level 30 is too hard to get for new players, so we should just let them join in abyssea at level 1. Level 1 would be so great. I think you all are so smart for agreeing with the fact that the entrance level should be 1. Level 1. Thanks.

oops triple post in another thread

[RaenRyong]

I will be sure to red next time.

[Nepharite]

Just admit you jumped in on a conversation and said something dumb. i said i would kill what ever they kill im sure they weren't going after anything level 5 dummy if you werent sure if they were ask them or red the whole post before you open your mouth and prove your ignorance again

Its obvious that you can't comprehend what RaenRyong is talking about. Its also obvious that you don't understand game mechanics by not using macros.

[Krystal]

You're either lucky or a liar. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Good luck making a party without a brd, a healer, and if there's more efficient DDs looking then I'm sorry but you'll be seeking for a while.

You're basing this idea that people will be looking for parties so much more if Abyssea leeching dies. They won't. I won't be leveling any new jobs if it reverts back to the old days, because I'd much rather be working on the level 90 content.

lucky or a liar eh? heh....gotta love all the attacks on my creditability...they make my reasoning for posts even more worthwhile....the fact people are now attacking my creditability proves i just scared the crap out of them with my post and they are ticked i lured them in so easily....brains over brawn...gotta love it! <3 so keep attacking my creditability...your just enforcing my point and encouraging more to speak their mind who are against abyssea's current cap and dyna.^^

[Dubberrucky]

My god.

If there aren't enough people to make a party outside of Abyssea because most people are in Abyssea this means that the people who are outside Abyssea trying to make a party are in the minority.

Logic.

If it were that simple I wouldn't hear over and over "You guys want to party?" "Nevermind there are no <insert x job here>"

[Nepharite]

lucky or a liar eh? heh....gotta love all the attacks on my creditability...they make my reasoning for posts even more worthwhile....the fact people are now attacking my creditability proves i just scared the crap out of them with my post and they are ticked i lured them in so easily....brains over brawn...gotta love it! <3 so keep attacking my creditability...your just enforcing my point and encouraging more to speak their mind who are against abyssea's current cap and dyna.^^

I like how full of yourself you are.

[Icestein]

Just admit you jumped in on a conversation and said something dumb. i said i would kill what ever they kill im sure they weren't going after anything level 5 dummy if you werent sure if they were ask them or red the whole post before you open your mouth and prove your ignorance again

He used hypothetical reasoning, but clearly you're not well up on your critical thinking skills. He used this hypothetical scenario to draw attention to the fact that gear, which is interchangeable in this scenario with the natural stat bonuses you gain through leveling, improves the rate at which you kill something. It's an extreme example, but it can be scaled down to two level 90s, one naked except weapons and one with a variety of gear for each situation. If these two are identical in every way except gear than I don't see how you can claim that both would be equal, one would have higher stats and therefore be hitting harder, better, faster and stronger.

Our work is never over.

[Ezikiel]

Its obvious that you can't comprehend what RaenRyong is talking about. Its also obvious that you don't understand game mechanics by not using macros.

when did i say i dont use macros? i just dont macro gear and still win you mey think that makes it harder but i dont really care i was never a gear person more so just like to play the gme to see what i can do i dont invest much into ffxi and if game were up id be doing these things but since it not im here with all you wonderful people