Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[Skybrit]

You can make a good argument without insulting or attacking people.

[Ryland]

I agree, they should lower the entry level for abyssea to 1 instead of 30. Level 30 is too hard to get for new players, so we should just let them join in abyssea at level 1. Level 1 would be so great. I think you all are so smart for agreeing with the fact that the entrance level should be 1. Level 1. Thanks.

[Topdogg]

I agree, they should lower the entry level for abyssea to 1 instead of 30. Level 30 is too hard to get for new players, so we should just let them join in abyssea at level 1. Level 1 would be so great. I think you all are so smart for agreeing with the fact that the entrance level should be 1. Level 1. Thanks.

Read thread topic before you make a post reply. This topic is not about minimum level.

[Ryland]

Read thread topic before you make a post reply. This topic is not about minimum level.

Since you brought it up, there are many reasons they should lower the entrance level to 1. Actually level 5 would be ok too, because then I'd save the 4 levels I spent getting to level 5 for bonanza. Who agrees to lower the limit?!!?!one

[Skybrit]

Trollacious!

[Vinceroth]

lowering the lvl from 30 to 1 will be hazardous! if you think about it...the lvl was set at 30 bc it would take a little while for someone to get, atleast a few days, some maybe less, and that is perfect to stall any RMT. if the min was lvl1, the RMT's would just invite a pt of lvl1's, and use their other pt of lvl90's to spam dominion pages or w/e and poof, the few days they would have spent trying to get 30, will now instead have them 6 lvl90's ready to sell to idiots that don't want to lvl their own jobs, or use them to further increase RMT.

[Krazy]

I am not as angry with leeching as I once was with the exp boost. With this new boost, if you key anywhere outside of heroes aby its a loss in my eyes. Because the amount of time you will spend skilling back up is not worth the headache.

I love punishing key people/afk'ers. I would love to see it get taken it one step further

1) If you are below level 65 you can enter abyssea but you can't do any quest, pop any monsters, or do any abyssea domion ops

2) Exp from chests will always be half of what it could be for people under 65

3) Can't talk/interact with NPCs or use any npc functions while under 65 in abyssea.

4) You can only have 1 (or maybe 2) stacks of keys on you at one time if you are below level 65

Eh, maybe I am being too mean to the lazy key people of FFXI. I mean there have been a few good points of why key ppl are needed. Maybe I am just too jaded because when I make lower level pts for new players in the LS or I just want to level up another job I still see people with "Aby only key please" and they would have been something to tie a pt up to go fight (healer or tank this is a reference to).

I mean there were a lot people who did not like those who used to astral flow burn, but at least those people who did go and leech there paid the price for it. The prices I saw were 250-500k for a pull or an hour or 2. I could be wrong on those prices, its been a while since I used to see the /sh. Also the only thing I didn't like was that the players who attempted to stop the burn but diaga the pull got banned for a day or 3. Getting banned for claiming monsters that weren't claimed lol, who would have thought. Also yes people did get banned for doing this. 2 in game friends and 1 rl friend got banned just for diaga a groups pull before the smn's even started.

So basically lol punish the key ppl. I am too much of a heartless bastard at times lol.

Oh about afk'ers... a few tips

1) Don't stay in the party, leave and go search.
2) Let the pt ldr know that your leaving because there are too many afk'ers or too many key ppl.
3) Remember who these people are and don't go back to their pts any more.

Lazy alli ldrs and pt ldrs within the alli are usually the same ppl you run into in your server most of the time. People who get most of their LS in the pt and then have like 3-5 go afk/leech even when its not called for is stupid. Don't reward them by staying there and trying hard. Just let them know why your leaving if you want to be polite, or just straight up leave if you don't give a damn. Aby pts are not hard to get into, its hard to maintain. So even if you have a band of idiots who control the ldr spots in your exp pt, just go and remember who they are. Don't blist them because who knows maybe they will have a use for you later on. Just because someone is afk don't mean they suck, they just caught a case of I dont give a crap and you are just collateral damage. Instead, remember who they are (if your memory blows just write the name down), then when you see them shouting in port jueno jump in their group, get what you want, and bounce (or if you want complete what your doing with them but make sure you at least get yours). I bend over backward for nice people in this game, and assholes get treated like crap around me. I dont know what it is with abyssea but the nice people in this game just get taken advantage of and the assholes just run wild.

Please stop posting, I read that and almost had an aneurysm.

[Sagian]

As I suggested elsewhere, add a skill requirement to Abyssea. If your skills aren't up to par, then you can't participate. So, you can still go in at level 30 and leech maybe 3 levels, but if your skills don't 'keep up' you get ejected.

[Dew]

Making it so you get kicked in from the zone for idling is just plain dumb. What if you went afk out of party for dinner with say 300ish mins? You get kicked cause you had to go eat? Just plain dumb. If you don't like leech's kick them from your parties. Simple solution.

Simple fact is no matter what SE changes or does people will complain about this and that forever. People can never just be happy. There is always something they want changed that is too hard or too easy.

[Niklz]

If they lowered the limit to 1 I would cancel my account and just download a F2P MMO like Grand Fantasia, or Rappelz. At that point I would get as much entertainment, content and the feeling of exclusivity that a free mmo would provide.

and to the original topic, instead of kicking players out, I believe it would be more fun watching AFKers delevel