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  1. #391
    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    I don't mind challenging battles but the days of the 18 player alliances are over. The days of the time sinks are over. The thing I hated the most of this game is spending a lot of time in game and getting nothing out of it. There were many things in the game that felt like you were making no progress.

    I liked nyzul, you got somewhere, and the drop rate on the gear wasn't that bad, your party of 6 could deck themselves out by putting time into it, but not a stupid amount of time.

    but on that note, this is probably my last month. they finally fix pup and I am going to leave, go figure. Whether I like the game or not is irrelevant at this point, I just don't think SE deserves our money, especially not 12.99. If they dropped the price to 5.99 which seems reasonable considering the support we get now compared to before then I may reconsidered. But I will not do the time sinks every again.

    Watch, even the more casual friendly trial of magians (elemental paths) allowing casual players to obtain good weapons, i guarantee they will mess that up by putting the final upgrade items in non-casual settings.
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    Last edited by xbobx; 12-07-2011 at 01:54 AM.

  2. #392
    Player Winrie's Avatar
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    You know to clarify I agree abyssea helped the game out with a breath of fresh air, but it went too far, I'm sorry but replacing everything was horrible, replacing ls organization with 3 buds or 1 guy and his mule is not fun after a point, and when you want to break away it's pointless considering everything is crap now outside the red skied reskins. People did come back cause of abyssea yet Many left as well, so who is anyone to say what benefitted the playerbase, only se knows this for a fact. I do know however my friends list decreased near the second installment of abyssea, rose back up for the last and maintained itself for a bit now it's dropped more than the first time it did. Aby was a great twist but I'm sorry it pretty much closed the book, ofc se can fix this but that entirely up to them.
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  3. #393
    Player Sharnak's Avatar
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    I really think "Mr.T" who take care XI now (You can find his excellent work with XIV original state). Try bring back 2003 FFXI, that you need spend 1 hr for gather party, and take year to get 1 gear, so can keep you play long long. (I guess XIV original state is not teach anything and too bad that Abby is there so he has no chance to bring back old ways of party that you spend 6 hr for get 2-3 lv - just if you lucky and get good party, and may 3 hr for 1 lv if you got some bad pt - or 30 min pt since thy use too long for seeking and no time to play anymore, or they just keep afk - or 10 min pt with DELV you.)

    These day it's not 2003 that people will spend whole day for seeking or need to spend year just for 1 assasin amlet (you will get special content on this events sometime - DRAMA, LOST FRIEND, ECT), If SE want ppl play longer, MAKE A LOT MORE CONTENT! that addict ppl not just make it harder to get item cuz it's super rare to drop. IT WAS SHOW HOW LAZY DELVELOPER WAS!.

    Sorry for any impolite comment, Many of my firend stop playing FFXI right now and what thy say is "VWNM is super boring..." I'm totally agreed.

    You can't find it's fun , 1st fight oh it's excitement, no drop oh just bad luck. 5 fight, oh my god how bad luck me. 10 fight omg i hate this nm badly but i want it's shining gear so bad i will endure it. after hundred fight on many same nm again and again and give you just junk. what is the point of fun.? it's just tortune.

    WAKE UP FROM UR OLD DREAM, IT'LL NEVER COME BACK.
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    Last edited by Sharnak; 12-07-2011 at 01:58 AM.

  4. #394
    Player Winrie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    I don't mind challenging battles but the days of the 18 player alliances are over. The days of the time sinks are over. The thing I hated the most of this game is spending a lot of time in game and getting nothing out of it. There were many things in the game that felt like you were making no progress.

    I liked nyzul, you got somewhere, and the drop rate on the gear wasn't that bad, your party of 6 could deck themselves out by putting time into it, but not a stupid amount of time.

    but on that note, this is probably my last month. they finally fix pup and I am going to leave, go figure. Whether I like the game or not is irrelevant at this point, I just don't think SE deserves are money, especially not 12.99. If they dropped the price to 5.99 which seems reasonable considering the support we get now compared to before then I may reconsidered. But I will not do the time sinks every again.

    Watch, even the more casual friendly trial of magians (elemental paths) were casual friendly allowing casual players to obtain good weapons, i guarantee they will mess that up by putting the final upgrade items in non-casual settings.
    Nyzul was never decked out gear, nyzul if anything was casual equivalents to good gear which was perfect considering it never screwed anything over. And I hope final weapons will be difficult, this game needs diversity of player back and a sense of accomplishment that is no longer there for achievements.
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    I know it benefit the base because servers and zones were packed (relative to the dismal '09 showing), life was breathed into the shout channel and overall community sites started to buzz again. Are they right now? Nope, back to dormancy they go save the 'test server' results.

    With or without Abyssea, those old events were doomed. Chalk it up to SE deciding to raise the level cap.
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  6. #396
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Do you even know what you're talking about? Now were cycling out playerbase and it took one year to get gear?
    Cycling in new players means younger new players coming in that can do the stupid mass time sink again, most of us that play now can't/don't want to go back to that.

    I guess we forgot only hnm were super stingy and it wasn't even that bad, limbus Ect wru? It never took one year to get a piece of gear
    When you join a group you/set one up you don't get every drop yourself, you are in a waiting list. Dynamis, took me over a year to get rdm af2 hat, many waited far far longer. Limbus? It took me well over a year and a half to get the 3 bits of homam I wanted going twice a week and I gave up on body cause we had horrible luck with it and I was last on the list anyway. Salvage? took me nearly 2 years to finish Morrigans body doing 3-4 runs a week and at least half of those killing the rats for me since it was my Tier 1 want. HNM not that bad? Maybe you were in a hardcore botting ls (or never did them till recently). 5-6 months to get my aces helm, about 18 months to get my eb and dalmy (camping them every possible HQ day), over 2 years to get my heralds gaiters camping it every time the windows were open (or at least getting tod). Most people will say the same, unless you lucked out or joined a shell that was capped on gear.

    Yeah you're the one that has no idea what they're on about.
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    Last edited by Runespider; 12-07-2011 at 01:58 AM.

  7. #397
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    Valhalla pieces, ridills could easily take someone over a year to get. Lets not even mention Drings and silver sea drops
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  8. #398
    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    Nyzul was never decked out gear, nyzul if anything was casual equivalents to good gear which was perfect considering it never screwed anything over. And I hope final weapons will be difficult, this game needs diversity of player back and a sense of accomplishment that is no longer there for achievements.
    Trial of magian elemental path was created to help casual players obtain something worth while if they put the time in, since they dont really add much in weapons anymore. Why do you seem to always want to punish casual players? Why should something like trails of magian force a casual player into some time sink 18 man battles. Those harder content are for the emp weapons. Those people made a choice to get the best weapon and work for it. The casual player choose to go the casual path for good weapons but no where near the best. They should not be punished for that. Adn if they are, they will leave and you will be sitting, crying in a corner wondering why the servers were shut down.

    It is a game, if I want a sense of accomplishment, I look outside the game, to things in life that actually have real meaning. A digital piece of gear has no meaning.
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  9. #399
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Oh you people are so cute. Will any of the Abyssea defenders, just for one second, stop pretending they're arguing against someone and present one reason why they believe the development team can keep Abyssea-like content up? Please? No? I thought so. Have fun confirming each other's views on Abyssea another five hundred times in here.

    Abyssea did kill old events. It wasn't just the level cap. It was mainly the gear from Abyssea that made old gear completely obsolete. I still did Limbus, Dyna, Sea, Sky, Einherjar, etc. with whomever was interested. But guess what, people weren't interested, and not because it was too easy (hell, isn't that why everyone loves Abyssea?), but because there was no incentive to do so. If you wanna pretend that's not the case, go ahead, I'm fairly sure most people in here already know how to put their fingers into their ears and sing, to keep the bad voices out.

    On a side note: the Fafnir at 4AM was not meant for everyone. It was meant for people who were awake at 4AM. You made it your own personal mission to camp it at 4AM. It's precisely why HNMs have a 21~24 repop window and not a 23:45 repop window, so it changes timezones after a while.
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  10. #400
    Player Winrie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Cycling in new players means younger new players coming in that can do the stupid mass time sink again, most of us that play now can't/don't want to go back to that.



    When you join a group you/set one up you don't get every drop yourself, you are in a waiting list. Dynamis, took me over a year to get rdm af2 hat, many waited far far longer. Limbus? It took me well over a year and a half to get the 3 bits of homam I wanted going twice a week and I gave up on body cause we had horrible luck with it and I was last on the list anyway. Salvage? took me nearly 2 years to finish Morrigans body doing 3-4 runs a week and at least half of those killing the rats for me since it was my Tier 1 want. HNM not that bad? Maybe you were in a hardcore botting ls (or never did them till recently). 5-6 months to get my aces helm, about 18 months to get my eb and dalmy (camping them every day after 3rd hq spawn), over 2 years to get my heralds gaiters camping it every time the windows were open (or at least getting tod). Most people will say the same, unless you lucked out or joined a shell that was capped on gear.

    Yeah you're the one that has no idea what they're on about.
    Oh I see, because you had a touch of horrible luck that means I don't know what I'm talking about? Your experience dictates se's entire game and every players individual experience? I see where this discussion is ganna go with someone as dense minded as you. Your plight is a simple fix, you had the wrong group, a human fault not a game fault. Oh as I said, woe is me attitudes, fanks buddy
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