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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Eh, i'd just be brewing stuff for gear anyway... which sucks
    Nah you don't have to brew everything if you want some challenges, and they are certainly doable without brew - every single thing can be done in many different ways now. It opens up different strategy, it gives people some room to experiment and try different atma combination, and if you really know your jobs, some surprising result on what is possible. The game is more fun, and more interesting, and have tons of options and choices - the developer should be able to see this and not brood over Abyssea (cough cough - yeah sorry team Yoshi did a great job - suck on this team Tanaka and man up, step up and actually DO YOUR JOB and fix voidwatch and walk of echoes - we pay monthly fees here).

    Here on FFXI there are many paying subscribers who expect result and contents - yet team Tanaka now brood over the biggest success to date when it come to expansion. Team Yoshi now being put in FF14 to clean up the mess that team Tanaka did, and manage to do an amazing job from the look of it. I am not surprised if team Yoshi proposed the reboot to version 2.0 because the mess that is version 1 is simply unfixable in the long terms.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 12-06-2011 at 10:50 AM.

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    I have a brutal so what exactly am I jelly of?
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    Suck less, kill Orthrus without needing brew, convert cruor to gil, buy Brutal.

    Gear really is too easy to get.
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    The reality of a player matters in the context of content development because it specifically speaks to how the proposed changes would affect the player proposing them.

    In the case where someone without a brutal earring proposes that Relics be harder to obtain (example), people will generally lamblast them because all they're doing is making the game more difficult for other people while having no negative impact on the player in question - after all, 200~ Million gil worth of currency is a lot harder to get than 75 Ancient Beastcoins.

    These are what we like to call "Party Poopers". Or, "If I can't have it, NO ONE CAN"s.

    These are generally gimp, downtrodden individuals who have never tasted true and lasting success in the game world, and feel that no one else should have it any easier than they did. These people are typically extraordinarily jealous and/or angry about the fact that "Lesser" people are able to obtain the same, or better, gear as/than them.

    These people talk about the sense of accomplishment in success and the grind that should be necessary in the game, but they aren't really concerned about other people being able to feel accomplished. All they want is to eventually rise to the top themselves, where no other "Lesser" beings are permitted entry.

    Of course, this has never happened for these people, and likely will never happen, so as that reality slowly sinks in for them they become bitter, resentful, and eventually incapable of working towards any goal other than the complete elimination of fun for everyone else in the game. If they can't be the very best like no one ever was, no one can.
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    I will have my revenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Nah you don't have to brew everything if you want some challenges, and they are certainly doable without brew - every single thing can be done in many different ways now. It opens up different strategy, it gives people some room to experiment and try different atma combination, and if you really know your jobs, some surprising result on what is possible. The game is more fun, and more interesting, and have tons of options and choices - the developer should be able to see this and not brood over Abyssea (cough cough - yeah sorry team Yoshi did a great job - suck on this team Tanaka and man up, step up and actually DO YOUR JOB and fix voidwatch and walk of echoes - we pay monthly fees here).
    I know that but i'd end up brewing anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    I have a brutal so what exactly am I jelly of?
    Not having one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Suck less, kill Orthrus without needing brew, convert cruor to gil, buy Brutal.

    Gear really is too easy to get.
    Again, not doing is not = to being unable to do.
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    Actually, Ito was the lead director of Abyssea add-ons who then later was promoted to the lead director of FFXI as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    The reality of a player matters in the context of content development because it specifically speaks to how the proposed changes would affect the player proposing them.

    In the case where someone without a brutal earring proposes that Relics be harder to obtain (example), people will generally lamblast them because all they're doing is making the game more difficult for other people while having no negative impact on the player in question - after all, 200~ Million gil worth of currency is a lot harder to get than 75 Ancient Beastcoins.

    These are what we like to call "Party Poopers". Or, "If I can't have it, NO ONE CAN"s.

    These are generally gimp, downtrodden individuals who have never tasted true and lasting success in the game world, and feel that no one else should have it any easier than they did. These people are typically extraordinarily jealous and/or angry about the fact that "Lesser" people are able to obtain the same, or better, gear as/than them.

    These people talk about the sense of accomplishment in success and the grind that should be necessary in the game, but they aren't really concerned about other people being able to feel accomplished. All they want is to eventually rise to the top themselves, where no other "Lesser" beings are permitted entry.

    Of course, this has never happened for these people, and likely will never happen, so as that reality slowly sinks in for them they become bitter, resentful, and eventually incapable of working towards any goal other than the complete elimination of fun for everyone else in the game. If they can't be the very best like no one ever was, no one can.
    I am aware of what you speak but that does not BAR it. For example, say I smoke and you smoke and I tell you not to cause its bad for your health. Well, in that case I would be hypocritical but its still good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    The proper course of action, for those in the audience, is not to deny gimpnosity, but to accept it and live with it.
    See my signature for an example.
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