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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Unfortunately, unless you have control of 17 other peoples, you are completely dependent on them (for voidwatch anyway). The old school forced you to depend to other people, and sometimes that means having to tolerate some minor quirks and "know your place" to avoid dramas. The new ways let you just go at it with 2-3 other people, which is more easier to do unless you are a social pariah in the game. It gives you option of solo-duo (more time) or go with smaller group (faster and more efficient) or bigger group (safer but more prone to dramas).
    Yes, and thats what separated good leaders from bad ones. You get a group together and keep people who refuse to act reasonably (reasonable being key, not suggesting elitism) out of the group.
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    Nah, that would be cheating because you wouldn't be taking in the adventure and enjoying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Nah, that would be cheating because you wouldn't be taking in the adventure and enjoying it.
    Same adventure acutally, I observed many things from chocoback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Then it was the wrong game for you as thats what it was made to be. At some point people need to understand that some things are meant to be one way and other things are meant to be another. If ffxi maintains its 'new' mentality I'll need to accept that its not my type of game anymore. But the fact that people that HATE games like ffxi used to be, come into the game, and try to make it something else is ridiculous.
    Sadly this game probably not for you anymore, I have no control over what the developers will do lol. I think the developers just responded to what the general paying consumer wants, and made abyssea, which sold quite well, and it seems now they run out of ideas on how to make another blockbuster add ons. I am glad the game evolved for the better, and the developers (to some degree) willing to let go of the past and move forward to the future. Even if it means render the old content to be less of a challenge (and timesink) and make the game more accessible to a lot of players (which pose a problem of a lot of less skilled players). You can't always get everything, but I am happy with the compromise - FFXI is not quite WoW but at least have some quality of what made WoW more accessible and fun.

    But they did open a big can of worm with Abyssea - now every single future add ons will be compared to Abyssea and if it does not live up to the same quality, people will not respond kindly. At the same time, it is good that Abyssea exists, it forces the developers to actually put some effort and "invest" in creating a better or on quality content if they want to keep paying customers happy. Maybe cut down the money pour into the trash that is FF14 and spend it more on 11? They now have no way of going back and have to move forward into the future - where fun, easy, accessible games rules (notice the rise of casual gaming on iphone and facebook). The problem is how to balance the casual and hardcore contents - but this is why we pay them monthly fees - SE needs to actually do some work and keep us happy and not completely ignoring customer's feedbacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Same adventure acutally, I observed many things from chocoback.
    Is it just as exciting and fulfilling the 10,000th time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Sadly this game probably not for you anymore, I have no control over what the developers will do lol. I think the developers just responded to what the general paying consumer wants, and made abyssea, which sold quite well, and it seems now they run out of ideas on how to make another blockbuster add ons. I am glad the game evolved for the better, and the developers (to some degree) willing to let go of the past and move forward to the future. Even if it means render the old content to be less of a challenge (and timesink) and make the game more accessible to a lot of players (which pose a problem of a lot of less skilled players). You can't always get everything, but I am happy with the compromise - FFXI is not quite WoW but at least have some quality of what made WoW more accessible and fun.
    Except that this thread is about the developers feeling abyssea was a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Is it just as exciting and fulfilling the 10,000th time?
    Do you have any idea how many times i've taken the mana clipper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    So you honestly think the Producer creates the game, designs it, etc?

    I think a lot of people really don't understand what a producer does.

    He basically just makes sure shit is done on time and that people are on task and is a middle man better the game developers in the higher ups who pay to have the game made.

    You can be in charge of people with out having hands on experience with what they are doing.
    Holy crap. I didn't say that either. WTF is wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Do you have any idea how many times i've taken the mana clipper?
    Well, in the end its simple then.

    No one is stopping you from traveling the way you wish. Doesn't mean you should force your way on to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    Well, in the end its simple then.

    No one is stopping you from traveling the way you wish. Doesn't mean you should force your way on to others.
    Thats the way the game was MADE. Is OTHERS who forced THEIR way on the game.
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