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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Not at all. Full Enmity merits is just +10% Enmity generation. However, at cap that doesn't matter, since every melee swing will recap your hate. So the more people are hitting it, the more it will spin, regardless of merits or gear or anything else.
    Those are more less due to what I call hate spikes, prime example is you have someone who has not touched the mob at all perform a powerful move and turns the mob. These are what I refer to as huge hate spikes. I simply macro in Hate gear with my provoke, just for these causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanoki View Post
    Those are more less due to what I call hate spikes, prime example is you have someone who has not touched the mob at all perform a powerful move and turns the mob. These are what I refer to as huge hate spikes. I simply macro in Hate gear with my provoke, just for these causes.
    If you were at the hate cap before this 'hate spike' from another player it would turn back to you with your next attack. The real secret to ninja tanking, is capping enmity through damage, and attacking faster then anyone else. Provoke is just an initial action you use to pull a mob off someone else who just pulled it or popped it, or to pull with yourself. It's not useful for gaining or keeping hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Provoke is just an initial action you use to pull a mob off someone else who just pulled it or popped it, or to pull with yourself. It's not useful for gaining or keeping hate.
    Unless mages pull hate and the mob pulls away. Provoke is instant, running after it to hit it takes time. Which was my point earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Unless mages pull hate and the mob pulls away. Provoke is instant, running after it to hit it takes time. Which was my point earlier.
    Attack faster and you won't have that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Attack faster and you won't have that problem.
    Why not? Are you saying to hit it before it moves out of range? Even at capped delay reduction it'll still take you > 1s between your melee rounds, time which the mob has to run away.
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