[dev1052] DRK Group 1/Group 2 Merit Point refinements

[Dart]

Most T2 merits are useless, so it wasn't surprising that DRK's were/are useless.

Honestly though asking for Haste over cap is like asking for WAR to deal 4809589458i72095834270 damage in one hit and asking for 100 TP ws return.

Every 2% over 80% is increasing DPS by like 50% iirc. Don't be stupid.

ukko's fury

blood rage (2 hour every 5 minutes)

what can compete with this? lol Sam comes close but still gets beaten by a solid margin. Mnk is solid but the ws frequency that war can put out crushes it in total dmg (VS and ukko's are pretty even).

breaking haste cap wouldn't make drk the top tier dd, our ws averages are just too weak. But it would close the gap some.

DB is one of the better t2 merit's in the game. Sure the rest of them suck for us but this is true for pretty much every job. They have 1 maybe 2 T2 merits that are worthwhile and the rest are for the most part, useless. So here's hoping that SE fixes it for not just drk but all jobs to have a second useful T2.

[Rezeak]

Imo muted souls idea is fine and doesn't need a complete redesign.

(that is a trait that makes souleater less risky) so the -50 enmity should stay there for 5 merits

Like i said imo it needs a tweak it make it more useful more of the time were that be -%DMG taken or when you take DMG you have a chance to lose all hate 10% per merit or just another 20 or 30 enmity minus. ( all while souleater is up )

As for Deye -15% mp for +%DMG is not a sacrifice in anyway lol

[Dart]

But what utility/use do I get out of those two JA? I use DE on maybe 1 or 2 mobs total in the game (when you consider how infrequently i fight those two mobs and the use of this JA goes down even further), Muted soul? Maybe not everything, but it sure seems like any mob with a damn builds resistance to SE quickly, so muted soul's overall usefulness has been negated (lets not get into if it was even useful to begin with).

Dark Seal................................................................hey I can use it for drain2 before I go in for a zerg with my useless 2 hour and SE that gets resisted?!?!?!?!

[Taint2]

But what utility/use do I get out of those two JA? I use DE on maybe 1 or 2 mobs total in the game (when you consider how infrequently i fight those two mobs and the use of this JA goes down even further), Muted soul? Maybe not everything, but it sure seems like any mob with a damn builds resistance to SE quickly, so muted soul's overall usefulness has been negated (lets not get into if it was even useful to begin with).

Dark Seal................................................................hey I can use it for drain2 before I go in for a zerg with my useless 2 hour and SE that gets resisted?!?!?!?!

^ This pretty much

I have DE merited because Muted Soul has 0 use and DS is barely useful.

[Leonlionheart]

87% Haste is a 50% Increase over 80%.

The old DRK cap took Apoc delay to 34.2 lol. Those were the good old days.

Considering Haste is king in FFXI, does no one see why this was capped at 80%?

I enjoy DRK as much as the next guy, but please.

ukko's fury

blood rage (2 hour every 5 minutes)

what can compete with this? lol Sam comes close but still gets beaten by a solid margin. Mnk is solid but the ws frequency that war can put out crushes it in total dmg (VS and ukko's are pretty even).

SAM DRK and DRG can easily compete with that. MNK often beats WAR in VW. SAM is better than WAR on T4 cities (where Fudo is actually still good). DRK is just fine on T3 Zilart/Jeuno, specially with it's more self sustained haste (BRD dies quite often). DRG does quite well everywhere alternating between Camlann's Torment on tougher mobs and Drakesbane on weaker mobs, and never has to worry much about hate. WAR comes ahead in T3 Zilart/Jeuno because of crits, but it's not by such a margin that you think.

The only reason I generally out parse DRKs is because they don't know how to play with PDT/MDT sets for some reason. I'm sure that if they wanted to tank, they could, and that would show that DRK isn't so far behind WAR. In fact you might be able to take out the BRD from the ddtank party and put the COR there (or RDM if the COR was already there) and put it in the BLM party for more MP for more proc frequency, making DRK a better tank overall. But I'm just thinking outside the box.

breaking haste cap wouldn't make drk the top tier dd, our ws averages are just too weak. But it would close the gap some.

Actually it would bend the scales so heavily no one would play anything other than WHM and Apoc DRK (if procs were not an issue).

DB is one of the better t2 merit's in the game. Sure the rest of them suck for us but this is true for pretty much every job. They have 1 maybe 2 T2 merits that are worthwhile and the rest are for the most part, useless. So here's hoping that SE fixes it for not just drk but all jobs to have a second useful T2.

It's the best merit in the game by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

[Dart]

what universe do you live in? You normally make sound points but you're on the moon with this one leon. I'm sorry but maybe on paper that sounds good, but in actual application it isn't even close to the truth.

[Leonlionheart]

what universe do you live in? You normally make sound points but you're on the moon with this one leon. I'm sorry but maybe on paper that sounds good, but in actual application it isn't even close to the truth.

Agree to disagree.

[Cljader1]

Agree to disagree.

I have to agree with dart on this one, DB is a very good JT merit...but Last Resort was so gimp it needed something to make it more effective. Without Desperate Blows a war Berserk has double the potency of Last Resort, you see war's abilities are already good SE decided to fix our LR JA through a JT merit and more recently extending the duration of the JA itself.

[Leonlionheart]

I have to agree with dart on this one, DB is a very good JT merit...but Last Resort was so gimp it needed something to make it more effective. Without Desperate Blows a war Berserk has double the potency of Last Resort, you see war's abilities are already good SE decided to fix our LR JA through a JT merit and more recently extending the duration of the JA itself.

I agree with the fact that last resort is crap w/o meriting it and desperate blows.

Doesn't mean it won't be completely overpowered by such an extent no one would play any job other than Apoc DRK if it causes the haste cap to go over 80%...

[Urteil]

Agree to disagree.

The philosophy of a quitter.