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    The sheep already has Light-based sleepga
    Just a little correction. Sheep's version of sheep song does not appear to be light based, it is most likely dark. I was unable to get it to land on a group of ~6 EP skeletons while doing trials.

    Even if they added a jug for every mob in the game, gave them every TP move possible, and sold them from an NPC for 1 gil each, BST will never be what it was until we get new content with charmable mobs to use as pets.
    Be what it was? you mean camping in the middle of nowhere soloing 5k/hr and pet-burning NMs? becuase that is all BST was ever good at, and if this is what you want bst to become then consider the job dead. I agree that call beast is pretty weak, but charm isn't really all that better. Simply placing charmable monsters in serious content zone will not resolve much of anything. All charm has over call beast is higher Max HP, and a disposable pet with random Sic attacks. Once again, this is only useful for exp'n or pet-burns, which is not the direction the game is heading. Charm would need a significant boost to be useful in the current gaming environment.
    If you want to improve charm....

    - Give me a charmable tiger with a potent Aura Double Attack.
    - A charmable Scorpion with a decent +critical rate and +critical damage aura.
    - Mandragora are weak pets, but give if they added new unique pet with useful aoe buffs (haste,regain,ect) they would make exceptional pets for "Serious" content areas.
    - Charmable Lynx mob with an aoe version of Frenzied Rage (Attack Boost+20%).
    - Give me a scenario where BST can charm the weaker NM baby adds that spawn from mega bosses.
    - I want to be able to select TP abilites when using charm...
    - I want a Charm II that has a significantly longer charm duration, and prevents "Even Match" (and lower) pets from attacking my pt if charm misses or wears off.

    Add some of these adjustments to charm and then more people would take it seriously... oh and bst-main only please.

    I see a lot of people crying for Scorpion and Rugzor jugs.... but considering lack luster Adamantiose, Hippo, Bird are and a frog mascot just for laughs.. I have a feeling any pet they add now is going to be equally as worthless... the problem is not with the pets.... it's SE's idea of balance... (looks at WARs)

    Personally, I think frog and bird jugs fits the job perfectly. As we move outside of Abyssea and towards Voidwatch and 99 content, BST is quickly becoming more and more of a joke. You spend gil out the ass spamming Reward and Dawns to keep your pet alive while taking 1500~2000 damage from AOEs and getting pelted for 500~900 damage from normal melee attacks from serious NMs... All the while using pet that contribute nothing to the fight barring a 1 min decoy should the tanks go down or lose hate. Take a look at PUP's most recent updates, now look at what bst has gotten in the last +8 years.... and we still cannot zone with jugs! BST just don't seem to be a high priority job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrick View Post
    Just a little correction. Sheep's version of sheep song does not appear to be light based, it is most likely dark. I was unable to get it to land on a group of ~6 EP skeletons while doing trials.
    sheep song IS light-based. I've slept many many dark based mobs w/ it.....
    It is quite effective against them.

    Even if it was straight out resisted by ep skeletons... your 1 example would not be any bases for sheep song being dark based...
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    Last edited by Xilk; 11-23-2011 at 06:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    sheep song IS light-based. I've slept many many dark based mobs w/ it.....
    It is quite effective against them.

    Even if it was straight out resisted by ep skeletons... your 1 example would not be any bases for sheep song being dark based...
    I do not know which mob you did your test on. But like I said, I used sheep song on a group of "SIX" ep skeletons and they all evaded. Just to be certain I went to Xaracard and grouped up 10 "Too Weak" Skeletons and Sheep Song'd all of them THREE times and this is how my log reads.

    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song but misses the Lost Soul.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.
    The Lost Soul evades.

    Next Stop: Sky

    Engaged Light Elemental, Used Sheep Song...
    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song.
    The Light Elemental is asleep.

    Engaged Dark Elemental, Used Sheep Song.
    NurseryNazuna uses Sheep Song but misses the Dark Elemental.


    Now its possible that all 10 "Too Weak" skeletons resisted my 3 attempts at Sheep Song every time.... but there is no way you can dispute sheep song landing on a EP Light Elemental but missing a EP Dark Elemental... I can only conclude that Sheep's version of Sheep Song is (most likely) dark based and you were only eye-balling your results and going on the assumption (as did I and many others) because BLU's version happens to be Light Based.
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    Last edited by Mavrick; 11-23-2011 at 08:07 PM.

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