[dev1042] Level Cap Increase (BST Related)

[Rubicant82]

It is my humble opinion that a Beast Pet should be able to use ANY MOVE that the mob itself can use with the same modifiers of the appropriate level. It is absolutely offensive to players for the dev team to tell us "we thinks that this is overpowered so we are not going to give the players (you know the people who PLAY THE GAME AND PAY FOR IT) what you want because we think it is bad"

ummm... do any of the dev team understand what customer service is?

Deny your customers what they want and they will find it somewhere else.

[SpankWustler]

Having come to terms with the existence of the weird jug pet pricing analogy, I decided to read the rest of the development team's thoughts.

With that said, we believe it would be too overpowered for it to have Yawn and Frigid Shuffle.

I don't understand how "360 degree gaze" versions of abilities two of our jug pets already have in normal Area of Effect form (Nursery Nazuna's Sheep Song and Gorefang Hobs's Roar, respectively) would be overpowered abilities for a new jug pet. How cheap is this thing planned to be such that it will be so awful? Is the Apkallu's jug going to be crafted using partly chewed bubblegum and dirty tufts of Galkan back hair found in the streets of Bastok after a mid-summer molt?

Back Heel requires one charge, Fantod requires two.
We felt Nihility Song was a bit overpowered, so we removed it. Apologies!
Jettatura completely ignores resists currently, so we are planning to adjust this. There is also a chance that we remove it completely.

Making Nihility Song a single target dispel that removes one buff wasn't an option? Making Nihility Song require three charges wasn't an option? Really? Please adjust Jettatura rather than simply removing it. Please.

We are planning to make a couple adjustments and we’re also thinking about strengthening Aqua Breath.

I'm glad to hear that Aqua Breath may be strengthened. At this point, it doesn't make sense for the version used by monsters to be capped at 400 either. Four-hundred damage isn't that much nowadays.

[Faithful]

The people running this game really do have no clue it seems. I've never before considered quitting this game as much as I have in the past couple months. Level 99 was a chance to fix a ton of issues with some of the less popular jobs, but from the sounds of things bst are going to be in the same boat at 99 that they were in at 75. I fun job for few but shunned by the masses. That's not really the way an mmo should be.

[Luvbunny]

This just convinced me that the developer really does not play this game enough to remotely even understand what the players want from them. They read this forum, we gave them feedback, and yet, they choose to ignore or do nothing about it. This new info on the beast pets are just downright, how to say it politely, stupid. They keep saying they don't have enough manpower to do "Actual Much Needed" adjustments, but yet have plenty of time to create useless jugs pets, with useless abilities. Jug pets should be reasonably CHEAP, not free, but not over 80k a stack either. Why not try to ADJUST this??????

Speaking of adjustment, the developer are notoriously known for having a massive utter hate and ignorance toward pet based jobs (PUP won the lottery - and Pld, Drk, Drg, Smn, Rdm just kept being ignored, and dumbed down further and further).

[Olor]

"Cheaper than Yuly" is an insult when we are telling you guys that the Apkullu is useless.

[xbobx]

"They keep saying they don't have enough manpower to do"'

This always cracks me up. Hello, it seems you decided to cut your support for this game drastically and you are stupid enough to admit it, but somehow I don't see my monthly subscription be cut proportionately.

Either support this game like you did before or cut the price, there is no discussion to be had here. We FFXI players are not willing to fund your FF14 failure. I hope I am speaking for everyone. I just love how we enabled FF14 to be free all this time for those 32 people that play it.

but thanks for the Toad. I am sure we will enjoy never using it.

[Glamdring]

Just wanted to pass along some additional information on the new familiars.



As we have mentioned previously, when considering that this pet is supposed to just be a mascot-type pet, it’s planned to be the cheapest of all familiars. Following this, we feel like the current stats are not really appropriate.



We are planning to make this a pet that is easy to obtain and will be balancing its power accordingly (Planning to make it cheaper than Yuly).

With that said, we believe it would be too overpowered for it to have Yawn and Frigid Shuffle.



Back Heel requires one charge, Fantod requires two.
We felt Nihility Song was a bit overpowered, so we removed it. Apologies!
Jettatura completely ignores resists currently, so we are planning to adjust this. There is also a chance that we remove it completely.



We are planning to make a couple adjustments and we’re also thinking about strengthening Aqua Breath.

Hate to say I told ya so about dumming down the jugs so I'll just let Camate do it for me...

[Glamdring]

It is my humble opinion that a Beast Pet should be able to use ANY MOVE that the mob itself can use with the same modifiers of the appropriate level. It is absolutely offensive to players for the dev team to tell us "we thinks that this is overpowered so we are not going to give the players (you know the people who PLAY THE GAME AND PAY FOR IT) what you want because we think it is bad"

ummm... do any of the dev team understand what customer service is?

Deny your customers what they want and they will find it somewhere else.

You damn skippy, been wanting baleful gaze on my lizards since day 1

[Luvbunny]

Ah the best way to show support is not supporting FF14 and don't bother to subscribe to it. Let it go down to history as one of their biggest blunders ever As a company, it is quite surprising to see how they intend to kill their cash cow and keep insisting to save the Titanic that is sinking deep into the ocean...

[Jeubond]

I'm sure that SE don't really ever intend to let FFXI die completely, they must be aware that for many of us FFXI is where our hearts and minds are and if they don't then they need to wake up and smell the roses !
To release a newer version of FF online [I cannot bring myself to mutter it's name . . . ] and have it only playable on computer whilst expecting any PS3/XBox console owners to wait another year before they play it is in business terms sheer stupidity. [had it been available to play at the same time across all fields might have enticed me away from FFXI but not now]

However I digress, I can only agree with some of the above posts and feel like many that while we have not had our main JA's actually stolen from us they are only usable if lucky, on a part-time basis only.
Sure there are times when they can come in handy but how I miss the days of fighting T/VT's or nm's and praying that my next Charm wouldn't backfire.
Having said that would it not have been possible to have added some of the better aspects of jugs to charmed pets too and beef up some of the old Bst spots for us to play around in and that way placate some of us ? I refer of course to giving charmed pets the tp abilites for each type as opposed to Sic which for me never gave the result either expected or wanted.
There are other JA's it would have been nice to see carried over but no point in wasting time or space moaning, I'm sure SE do listen but how committed they are to keeping FFXI alive is an unknown factor at this time.
Be nice to hear how long they intend to keep it alive and any future plans if possible with a guarantee to boot.