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[saevel]

[22:43:29][GM]Xophious>> Greetings Nynja. I am GM Xophious. I understand you wish to report Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for using
[22:43:33][GM]Xophious>> a speed cheat. Is that correct?
[22:43:42]>>Xophious : yeah, unless whm/anon can flee around for 60 seconds
[22:44:09]>>Xophious : I could be mistaken, and theyre forsome stupid reason using
[22:44:17]>>Xophious : sprinter drinks to claim blood bats
[22:44:20]>>Xophious : then forgive me
[22:44:46][GM]Xophious>> It's not a problem at all! It's best to report that kind of suspicious behavior to us, just in case.
[22:44:55][GM]Xophious>> I apologize if they have caused any trouble.
[22:45:02][GM]Xophious>> How long ago did you first see them moving faster than normal?
[22:45:07]>>Xophious : when I called you
[22:45:29][GM]Xophious>> Do you know if they have said anything since then?
[22:45:38]>>Xophious : I didnt even confront them, cause theyd just shut it off
[22:45:45]>>Xophious : they'd deny it obviously
[22:47:16][GM]Xophious>> I will gladly investigate both Pillowcase and Wulfshadow for any third party program use. In the meantime, I would
[22:47:30][GM]Xophious>> suggest for you to report them to the Special Task Force as well. Would you like to know how to reach them?
[22:47:40]>>Xophious : its on the se website somewhere
[22:48:19]>>Xophious : I'd like to point out
[22:48:25]>>Xophious : while I'm aware this isnt tangible
[22:48:38]>>Xophious : my friends have had problems with someone by the name of Sevourn, fleehacking around as well
[22:49:02]>>Xophious : and I just found out Sevourn and Wulfshadow share LS
[22:49:13]>>Xophious : while it means nothing...I feel I should throw it out there
[22:49:18][GM]Xophious>> I can add Sevourn to the investigation as well, no problem. If you encounter any others, don't hesitate to
[22:49:21]>>Xophious : and I"ll tell them to report Sevourn when they see him do it
[22:49:24][GM]Xophious>> let us know.
[22:49:39][GM]Xophious>> Is there another question or concern I can help with before I investigate though?
[22:49:46]>>Xophious : no, thats all, ∩'Thank you.∩(
[22:50:12][GM]Xophious>> Thank you much for contacting us, Nynja. I apologize again for any trouble.
[22:50:22][GM]Xophious>> If you have any customer-service feedback, it can be left through support.na.square-enix.com >
[22:50:29][GM]Xophious>> FINAL FANTASY XI > Contact > Suggestions & Feedback
[22:50:35]>>Xophious : no problem...I honestly cant stand ppl who do stuff like that so blatantly
[22:50:43][GM]Xophious>> Also, the Special Task Force can be reached through > Contact > Report to Special Task Force
[22:51:09][GM]Xophious>> I know what you mean, it leaves everyone else at a disadvantage.
[22:51:52][GM]Xophious>> Please take care.
[22:52:00]>>Xophious : I always do ∩'Thank you.∩(
**Did some glavoids, went back to bats to get more pops sets, and the people I reported an hour eariler are STILL flee hacking around
[00:07:57](Nynja) and GM didn tdo shit
[00:10:14](Nynja) look at this guy, GM didnt do a fucking thing
**I send a second call and I get a stupid automated reply...**
[00:36:25](Nynja) a GM cant fucking teleport over to them and notice a whm/anon is fleeing around for 3 minutes?


To this day, these scrubs STILL leave their fleehack at 100% with no repercussion. I hate to namedrop the GM like that, but really, during an entire 7 minute conversation with the GM, I'm watching a whm/something have a constant flee effect and they couldnt do a god damn thing...seriously? You know what that tells me: game on.

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM. I've seen it where the GM actually went into the zone and watched the guy (using special GM cloak) then *BAM* temp ban on the spot.

So like I said, if they happen to see it with their own eyes, not just you reporting it, then they'll temp ban there and then.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM.

While using Windower hmmm.

[Nynja]

Umm this means nothing, only that you were chatting with a GM. I've seen it where the GM actually went into the zone and watched the guy (using special GM cloak) then *BAM* temp ban on the spot.

So like I said, if they happen to see it with their own eyes, not just you reporting it, then they'll temp ban there and then.

I said I was watching them fleehack around, I sent a second GM call an hour later, stating they were STILL fleehacking around, and I got an automated response of "we know, report to STF".

You'd think two reports of "I'm watching this guy fleehack around for the past 2 fucking hours" would mean the GM could port over to the character in question and watch them for 60 seconds?


oh, and I've also reported to the STF as well, of course nothings done.

I think the stupidest part of the convo was this:
[22:45:29][GM]Xophious>> Do you know if they have said anything since then?
Like what the fk? Are they going to shout around "HEY LOOK IM FLEE HACKING AND GMS ARE PUSSIES AND WONT DO ANYTHING NYAH NYAH NYAH". Am I supposed to confront them, so they know someones onto them and they stop cause someones watching, therefor nothing can be done?

[Godofgods]

imo there is no issue, if a cliper user isnt detracting from my gaming experience, all power to him to do whatever he wants to do.

Exactly... the rules only matter if it interferes with MY work!!! -_-

Is their even a point to botting anything anymore? You make 100x the gil AE'ing mandies in Altepa, and few people even bother with food anymore.

Skilling maybe? Iv maxed out every real craft, but i still cant stand fishing for more then 2 minutes at a time :/
While i wouldnt risk getting banned over a bot for fishing skill, i certinly cant blame anyone that does.

[Byrth]

If you did Synergy to 80, then you could probably do Fishing to 40. It takes about 8000-10000 "Feed Fewells" to cap Synergy at the moment. You can literally start with a level 80 synth and just spam the appropriate fewell all the way there without taking a notable hit to skillup rate. If you pull out your Weaver's Stall at level 0 and start spamming Earth Fewell, 10000 Feeds later you'll probably be capped. At least Fishing is a damned game, even if it's a stupid one.

[Sappho]

What did you gain out of getting this person's character banned?
What did you lose by having him pos around?

Spoken like a true botter, hacker & cheater.

[Sappho]

I know that this will not change anyone's mind. Cheaters are gonna cheat. Haters are gonna hate.

But, in a fixed world, anyone that breaks the "rules" of that world, damages the world for everyone else in the world.

That's why it is illegal to counterfeit money.
That's why it is illegal to hunt or fish without a license or when it isn't hunting season, etc.
That's why it is illegal to kill endangered animals.

Laws keep the world in balance. The same applies to game worlds.

Sure, maybe if your family is starving in Africa then you gotta poach some elephants and sell the tusks to feed your kids. Maybe that's a good motivation. Doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal and you would still go to jail. And African jails aren't the nice, air-conditioned jails like they have in America.

[Sappho]

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Endless superiority and the satisfaction of knowing that I'm better than you.

And you still troll the forums after selling your character?

Get a life.

[Brolic]

I know that this will not change anyone's mind. Cheaters are gonna cheat. Haters are gonna hate.

But, in a fixed world, anyone that breaks the "rules" of that world, damages the world for everyone else in the world.

That's why it is illegal to counterfeit money.
That's why it is illegal to hunt or fish without a license or when it isn't hunting season, etc.
That's why it is illegal to kill endangered animals.

Laws keep the world in balance. The same applies to game worlds.

Sure, maybe if your family is starving in Africa then you gotta poach some elephants and sell the tusks to feed your kids. Maybe that's a good motivation. Doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal and you would still go to jail. And African jails aren't the nice, air-conditioned jails like they have in America.

cool story Javet

[Zhronne]

You must have missed a memo or something. They don't ban for anything anymore homey. People flee hack indiscriminately. I wouldn't hold you breath for any fishbot bans.

Sad but true =/
Doubt we're gonna see any ban hammer any time soon.