[dev1001] Treasure Pool Menu Additions

[kingfury]

I'm extremely against not being able to lot in the last 30 seconds. That is a terrible idea. What if someone was afk for 4.5 mins? Not going to work.
However such a restriction does make sense for lot all.

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I would think if you're in a respectable group, everyone would just Pass the item you needed if you were AFK so that it would just drop to you. If you're lingering AFK during an important battle for 4.5mins, imo you deserve to miss your chance to lot lol (D/C's are understandable but it's rare that folks can ALWAYS get back online in under 4.5mins).

[rog]

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I would think if you're in a respectable group, everyone would just Pass the item you needed if you were AFK so that it would just drop to you. If you're lingering AFK during an important battle for 4.5mins, imo you deserve to miss your chance to lot lol (D/C's are understandable but it's rare that folks can ALWAYS get back online in under 4.5mins).

And if others are afk?

[kingfury]

And if others are afk?

< CALL 1> x 10 Spam?? lol

[rog]

< CALL 1> x 10 Spam?? lol

and...if they don't hear that? Many people mute calls, or ffxi entirely.

Sorry, but i'd rather see drops go to ninja lotters than to the ground because someone wasn't able to lot within 4.5 mins.

[kingfury]

and...if they don't hear that? Many people mute calls, or ffxi entirely.
Sorry, but i'd rather see drops go to ninja lotters than to the ground because someone wasn't able to lot within 4.5 mins.

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Well ^^ you'd technically still have 4.4 1/2 mins since we're talkin' about 30 seconds here lol. That still should be plenty of time to safely lot a drop while protecting from last second Ninja Lots. Plus, I think the protection from sneaky lotters outweigh the "what if i'm afk" argument /stagger Best solution for such a problem is to simply communicate with the folks you're with before anything important happens Unless your hair is on fire... but then I would think you'd have bigger worries than if you missed a lot...I would think.

[rog]

Plus, I think the protection from sneaky lotters outweigh the "what if i'm afk" argument /stagger Best solution for such a problem is to simply communicate with the folks you're with before anything important happens Unless your hair is on fire... but then I would think you'd have bigger worries than if you missed a lot...I would think.

This is where i disagree. How often is ninjalotting really a problem? I mean really? It doesn't happen every day. It happens even less now that everything is so easy to get. Even one lost item because the person meant to lot it was afk or dead before 4:30, but not before 5:00 outweighs any benefit of preventing ninjalotting.

[kingfury]

I wouldn't be able to accurately give a percentage, since I personally don't participate with pickup groups anymore, but I'd guess it still happens quite often from the horror stories I've heard from my LS mates on occasion. I recall witnessing it happening during a Odin run a while back where the guy did it and lotted and ran around so he couldn't get D2'd, and no one could do a damn thing about it. That was lots of work all down the drain for someone that truly deserved the gear. It happened again during a Rani run where the guy snuck his lot in at the very last second and won, so I'd say as long as there's desirable equipment that drops from NMs, Ninja lotting will thrive.
Again, your argument sounds more like folks being lazy or not communicating with folks. It's a hard lesson, but it'll teach folks to just pay attention during such times in my opinion.