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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciecle View Post
    Maybe... Cljader1 didn't catch my quote... and it's from FFXIclopedia too :<...

    But just in case, I have to quote it again just to make sure the logic goes through... cause Spiritreaver is right...
    Quoted for emphasis. Is this sinking into you yet professor?
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  2. #132
    Player Cljader1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    Quoted for emphasis. Is this sinking into you yet professor?
    Some of you guys are idiots, no gear mention was in his formula so that makes it is bogus, bottom line....and you clowns have hijacked the thread long enough talk about drk blood weapon or just gtfo, last time ill address you clowns and your details if some of you clowns cant form a basic formula right no wonder your trapped in the box of a video game lol.
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  3. #133
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    You're right, Cljader1, it wasn't initially mentioned that the additional 2% wasn't explained in the math formula. It has, however, been implemented and explained in detail enough that if you haven't grasped that understanding then maybe you should go back to basic algebra... Then again I have a feeling you're just being a troll coming up with poor excuses to not understand such simple math.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cljader1 View Post
    Some of you guys are idiots, no gear mention was in his formula so that makes it is bogus, bottom line....and you clowns have hijacked the thread long enough talk about drk blood weapon or just gtfo, last time ill address you clowns and your details if some of you clowns cant form a basic formula right no wonder your trapped in the box of a video game lol.
    [sarcasm]He also didn't mention whether or not drk was a main job or a support job when providing formulas for how souleater damage works. If SE is used while drk is your SJ, it's only 5% of your HP added to the damage(though 10% is still taken from you). He also didn't factor any souleater resists... you know, in case it's souleater against AV. Since none of that was mentioned, clearly his math is bogus.[/sarcasm]

    If someone arrives at a correct answer, yet does not show their work, this does not mean their answer is instantly invalidated. Particularly if they later go back and correct the issue you had/have grievances with and actually show where they got the questionable values from. Yes, that's right, he actually went back and told you where he got the 12% from, but for some reason, the fact that gear wasn't mentioned in his first post means that his statement is completely false? Let's re-examine it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Y = Damage dealt with Souleater+BW.
    A = Base Damage dealt w/o SE/BW
    B = Damaged added from SE/BW = Current HP * 0.12

    Standard equation for SE+BW damage is Y = A+B

    This can be rewritten as Y = A*C as long as you define C to be:

    C = (A+B)/A
    Aside from the typo where he added a "d", I see no faults in his equation assuming that DRK is your main job and is wearing a piece of gear which enhances souleater. Incomplete? Well, yeah, unless he gets the full formula from the servers, his equation will never factor all possibilities into it. However, the assumption of DRK main and souleater enhancing gear was perfectly clear to everyone reading his post except for you. Then instead of admitting your brief moment of ignorance, you've doubled down by saying his failure to mention the gear invalidates every point he has raised. Then after him mentioning the gear which enhances souleater to 12% of HP, he's too late and the damage is already done; his formula is permanently bogus.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're stupid. Hell, you're probably a relatively intelligent person, but even the smartest people make mistakes. However, it's important to admit the mistake so we don't go around promoting ignorance. If the person who is in the wrong refuses to admit it, it is up to the community to make sure the fallacy is properly dismissed before someone else gets the wrong idea.
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  5. #135
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    posting in a mildly entertaining thread
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  6. #136
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    Why would you use souleater not in conjunction with any of the bonus pieces?
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  7. #137
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    no clue, i use the leg slot enhances SE gear in my SC. Not like its hard to do. (And i Suck at writing SC)
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cljader1 View Post
    Some of you guys are idiots, no gear mention was in his formula so that makes it is bogus, bottom line....and you clowns have hijacked the thread long enough talk about drk blood weapon or just gtfo, last time ill address you clowns and your details if some of you clowns cant form a basic formula right no wonder your trapped in the box of a video game lol. Screw you guys! I'm taking my ball and going home!!!!
    Translated for clarity.
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  9. #139
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    I wasn't aware there were people who had no idea how souleater works.

    There's like two pieces in the game that affect it, pretty easy stuff.
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  10. #140
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    3 that I know of, a body, leg, and head piece
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