Empyrean Feet Armor Alt. Obtainment methods PLEASE PASS ON TO DEVS

[Vold]

Come on now getting bastion credits is not harder then getting af3 feet. I did find most of the feet for my jobs by just doing random things in Abyssea. The only one I actually went to farm was SMN. I wouldn't have had to even do that if I didn't pass up the opportunity to get them like 3 times beforehand.

I don't know which is more time consuming and it basically depends on the luck factor in the end but Bastion is definitely more frustrating by a good lead mainly due to most people not caring about it. It was never really time limit friendly with all the other things you could be dumping your limited stone count into. Maybe if you got 5 or 10 min extensions after every battle or at least successful battle it might have been more popular. Exp is definitely pretty good for at least the melee but I think it's another one of those things where mages are screwed. BLM might get decent numbers out of it, though.

Bottom line you can easily spend 30+ minutes before you see a victory in Bastion. Most of the time mobs rush in, a NPC somewhere does stupid and draws hate near the marts, they get AoE'd and taken down and mobs rush off like they're somebody. And when you do get a victory you had better been on the ball or you'll walk away with jack for rewards. Typically victories are only obtained from weak 1 wave attacks unless you miraculously find yourself surrounded by at least 10 others but even when it's "crowded" all it takes is BLM NPCs to screw everything up.

If you're the casual player who couldn't care less and just wants their 1500 points to buy their legs I could see you not having an issue with bastion. But for the player like me who likes to keep points replenished to buy temps to have them instead of not having them when I need them, it's incredibly enraging to deal with Bastion.

[Soranika]

Especially going into bastion with no buffs to the npcs, barrier (if it's even there), and the marty. Some jobs are ill equipped to control the mobs on their own (which most tend to solo bastion and fail.) While some other jobs don't do a very good job of dealing with the enemy before they say f' it and attack the marty, completely ignoring you and the npcs all together.

Bastion has been easily the most frustrating way to obtain an AF3 NQ piece for me.

[hiko]

if your job cant solo bastion you can:
- come with an other job
-team up with friends
- suck less

when you farm gold coffer there is nothing you can do to "force" the one you need to drop. You can be the bestplayer on the best job with the best gear, team up with the best player, Mr Randomgenerator can still drop random feet that wont be the one you farm

[Zumi]

Feet aren't hard to get you can solo them really easy.

[Mirage]

By that same logic, the VW system is fine as is...base feet arent hard to get, but theyre not easy. Its entirely luck based, especially in an area like vunkerl where you have a pool of 9, compared to 6 attohwa, and 5 misareaux. On top of the thought that the game seems to know what you want, and refuses to cooperate.

Empyrean feet aquisition is a lot easier though, even if the drop rate isn't super high. Mainly because you can add them to the common treasure pool, letting people who actually need them come and get them. All it requires is to be able to zone into the appropriate abyssea zone within 5 minutes, which is easily done with a warp scroll and Aby teleporters.

I don't know about you guys, but every single time I find a pair of empy feet I don't need, I do a "/l Anyone need X feet? Come to Zone asap!" And my shellmates do the same when they find something. I also often shout about it in the zone I am in.

This is how I have gotten all the feet items I have, actually , and a few for jobs I haven't even gotten past lv50 yet, but plan on doing sometime in the future.

[FrankReynolds]

if your job cant solo bastion you can:
- come with an other job
-team up with friends
- suck less

when you farm gold coffer there is nothing you can do to "force" the one you need to drop. You can be the bestplayer on the best job with the best gear, team up with the best player, Mr Randomgenerator can still drop random feet that wont be the one you farm

1 DD and 1 White mage can AOE a shit ton of mobs, and get every foot in a zone in like 1 hour.

When I take my White Mage to do bastion, that fool can be there his whole life and not get points.

[Atomic_Skull]

Feet are not hard to get sorry.

[Buffy]

To the OP: Stop Whining.

[Concerned4FFxi]

I understand your frustration my friend, but I've had all 20 feet for awhile now. I suggest that you join an xp pt in the area that you need the feet from, and after the party you go and solo a few hours with your capped lights and extra te. You can farm better this way. Another suggestion is, start your own xp pt and in the shout specifically state that the first pair of X feet are yours, this way anyone joining the party knows in advance that you are locking the first pair of X feet. I've seen several shouts that have this. Another option maybe to shout for a feet farming group, hosting one yourself is the best option. In a feet farming group make sure you have at least one good dd and one good azure light maker and a healer. Consult wiki on which ws and mobs yield amber lights, for feet farming you want enough amber to drop small gold chests, but not enough to drop large gold chests.

On the flip side of this, if any changes to empyrean feet are made, I would prefer that the feet are able to drop from large gold chests with capped lights, as i seem to notice that once amber is closer to cap smaller chests drop less frequently and more larger gold chests seem to drop. This is why capped lights are good for ki farming, but not for feet farming. Perhaps the feet could drop from the larger chests as well, therefor allowing people who do farm after an xp pt and with all capped lights a fairer chance at empyrean feet. Currently, the feet drop from small chests only. Perhaps though, this was intended in making the base feet somewhat challenging in acquiring, and therefore more rewarding once completed.

[svengalis]

I don't know which is more time consuming and it basically depends on the luck factor in the end but Bastion is definitely more frustrating by a good lead mainly due to most people not caring about it. It was never really time limit friendly with all the other things you could be dumping your limited stone count into. Maybe if you got 5 or 10 min extensions after every battle or at least successful battle it might have been more popular. Exp is definitely pretty good for at least the melee but I think it's another one of those things where mages are screwed. BLM might get decent numbers out of it, though.

Bottom line you can easily spend 30+ minutes before you see a victory in Bastion. Most of the time mobs rush in, a NPC somewhere does stupid and draws hate near the marts, they get AoE'd and taken down and mobs rush off like they're somebody. And when you do get a victory you had better been on the ball or you'll walk away with jack for rewards. Typically victories are only obtained from weak 1 wave attacks unless you miraculously find yourself surrounded by at least 10 others but even when it's "crowded" all it takes is BLM NPCs to screw everything up.

If you're the casual player who couldn't care less and just wants their 1500 points to buy their legs I could see you not having an issue with bastion. But for the player like me who likes to keep points replenished to buy temps to have them instead of not having them when I need them, it's incredibly enraging to deal with Bastion.

You don't need a victory to get Bastion credits. All you have to do is go on BLM target one of the flying saucers coming in and kill it.(You can get two if it last long enough) You could also just GA everything that comes in but make sure you put stoneskin/blink/reraise up first. Doing this it won't take you long to get the credits you need.