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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Seriously, calm your tits and stop taking everything as a personal offense.
    Calm down. Oh wait, there's no actual anger in your post, so that doesn't really work? My bad.

    (Psst, maybe you should try saying that to me too regarding my last post which you quoted, devoid of anything justifying a "calm down" really. If you don't want me to take things as a personal offence then dont write them directly at me?)

    From your last post I have discovered a few things about you:
    1) You like to make baseless assumptions to try and build an argument. Making something out of nothing. Sauce: "that some one dissing the way you may choose to play your favorite job or whatever".
    2) You seem to think I care about how much credibility you think I have. (I couldn't care less. i don't owe you anything, and nor do you have any assets I'd be interested in)
    3) You like to call justified arguments ignorant, without any sort of rebuttle. Unless of course the "ignorant" comment was regarding my comments on Rdm melee, which I thought we already covered was a tangent? The argument of "you must make choices and sacrifices, everyone else does on every other job" is still relevant.
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    Well this got no where fast. My bad for assuming your first post was an assumption that this topic would derail into rdm melee topic, assuming that my post towards had an "arrogant tone". My bad for assuming every retaliatory remark you made against Daniel was an attempt to defend yourself while at the same time trying to make a snide remark against him, which I assumed was cause you took grievance from even being addressed by some one not agreeing with your stance. Cause I mean, how could it not rub your the wrong way since it was directed at you, right?

    You come in overreacting and make a jumble argumentative post that's over simplifying the pre-existent debate.

    And seriously, a hvergelmir in my possession is bothersome to you that you have this baseless assumption in your head for what I may be using it for? ...Right.

    But oh, on to important business...
    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    White Mage melee certainly isn't a novelty if you are trying to solo anything as one. Curing yourself for five minutes won't kill a monster if you are the only one doing damage, even if you are casting every Divine Magic nuke and even Impact every chance you get. Not every situation in this game is an alliance battle versus mobs that will kill anything they look at that doesn't have over a few thousand health.

    Of course, does a White Mage need Dual Wield natively? Does a Red Mage? Does Beastmaster? Again, like I said before, while it would be beneficial towards the classes, it does not necessarily make it happening a good idea from a flavor or balance standpoint.
    If WHM is not a novelty, then what would be the application of a melee WHM outside of personal preference when doing things on your own time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    If WHM is not a novelty, then what would be the application of a melee WHM outside of personal preference when doing things on your own time?
    Proving it's possible to do X on WHM.

    It makes more sense in small groups, when the application of melee WHM is to retain WHM cure power while speeding up kills somewhat. (Obviously whether or not this is a good idea depends on the fight. For example, I'm not crazy enough to melee Chloris on WHM.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    All the jobs that use 1H weapons either already have it or have no use for it.

    THF DNC NIN BLU: have it already. Of these THF and BLU will always be using /NIN for shadows and DW3 anyway.

    PLD: Should never take off shield.

    RDM: Should always be using staves.

    WHM: See RDM.

    WAR: Should always use great axe.
    Biggest bunch of bs i ever heard given that tier I enspells affect both main and offhand weapon. RDM technically should've been had DW1 and DW2 already behind NIN and DNC of course with NIN the highest tier of DW followed by DNC, then RDM. I NEVER understood people who want to be RDM but never use a sword which they have an actuall skill for that improves accuracy but think RDM should ONLY use a STAFF for which they have no actual skill for and may only get a few paltry stat boosts for which make very little difference overall when they are still outshined natively by BLM and SCH. To each their own but complete BS in my opinion but whatever
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapriciousOne View Post
    Biggest bunch of bs i ever heard given that tier I enspells affect both main and offhand weapon. RDM technically should've been had DW1 and DW2 already behind NIN and DNC of course with NIN the highest tier of DW followed by DNC, then RDM. I NEVER understood people who want to be RDM but never use a sword which they have an actuall skill for that improves accuracy but think RDM should ONLY use a STAFF for which they have no actual skill for and may only get a few paltry stat boosts for which make very little difference overall when they are still outshined natively by BLM and SCH. To each their own but complete BS in my opinion but whatever
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    Something that rhymes with "truck".

    Can anyone guess what is filling my head?
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    I idle in PDT Shamshir so nacht.

    Still need oneiros grip so back to staff below 76% MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Dual wield only matters for single handers anyway. And of those, Pld still doesn't care, Dnc Nin and Thf have it already, and Blu can set it. That leaves ... ohwait.
    BST, and BRD

    :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    The reason BST wants Dual Wield has nothing at all to do with faster TP building. In fact, It likely has exactly the opposite reason... I'll explain.

    Right now, to Dual Wield 2 -PDT pet axes, BST has to sub NIN or DNC. Subbing NIN means you can keep shadows up vs a mob that doesn't AOE, however if the mob can AOE you, DNC can be better to cure yourself.

    Unfortunately, /DNC requires TP which isn't very easy to come by, and even harder in situations like closed battlefields where there's only the NM to build TP on. In this situation, /SCH /WHM or /RDM are much better options as you can replenish mp simply by /heal, not to mention far more refresh gear available, and sublimation/refresh from rdm or sch. But right now, you can only wield 1 x -pdt axe if you /sch /whm or /rdm

    If this wasn't why the OP wanted DW for BST, I'm stumped.

    Yeah this is exactly why I want dual wield for bst. Would love to be able to sub mages without taking a major hit to pet durability.
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    I was thinking more along the lines of something that rhymes with "spilt" but whatever
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