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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydog View Post
    lol at the thought they would ever make XI-2. if you want something new your best bet is to wait until next year for ff14 2.0
    If you think they can build a complete new FFXIV in one year when 1.0 took them five years then you are kidding yourself. Take off the fanboy colored glasses.
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    Not as much as you think if they licensed a third party graphics engine such as Gambryo Lightspeed or whatever.
    They've already licenced third party engines before, and that didn't go well. Also, any third party engine is going to be inherently incompatible with the old game engine and everything, including the art since you'd want to upgrade the graphics, would need to be redone from nothing. So, yes, it would be as much as I think. Already built game engines do speed development for new projects. But there's only so much it can do for an old project. Also, licensing the engine itself would eb a major cost, and when you build your own engine you can be sure it does what you want it to do.

    If you think they can build a complete new FFXIV in one year when 1.0
    It isn't 100% all new. Art assets will be retained (Though some new assets will be needed), core game mechanics will be retained, characters and their data will be retained. Also, they aren't just starting this now. It's been being worked on for months now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    If you think they can build a complete new FFXIV in one year when 1.0 took them five years then you are kidding yourself. Take off the fanboy colored glasses.
    Or you could just read what they have as plans. SE themselves announced a complete reconstruction of servers, zone, UI, algorithms and so on. It's pretty much 95% of what makes the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No they didn't. All they did was release an expansion, along with which they plopped some random steaming piles of lava and deamon around the landscape of the original world.

    ... Anyway, I don't think people realize what kind of an incredible task it would take to rebuild the FFXI engine, originally built for the PS2, and make it ocmpatible with all the new technology today and at the same time keep it compatible with all the user data both on their servers and our client machines. It's like rebuilding an Edsel to be a late model sports car. Rebuilding FFXIV on the other hand is just rebuilding last year's sports car to be like this year's and ironing out its defects.

    To be perfectly honest: I'd love to see a rebuilt FFXI as much as anyone here. Even if they did choose to cancel FFXIV, however, that doesn't suddenly mean they'd start working on an FFXIV rebuild.
    Going off topic but in Cataclysm all of Azeroth maps were almost completely redesigned like what they are doing in XIV. It was alot like Rift where they streamlined the quest, you get the quest and can go do it right in the same area instead of walking across the zone to the other side to do it. They also update the graphics engine for higher end PCs.
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    Going off topic but in Cataclysm all of Azeroth maps were almost completely redesigned
    I've seen them. They're not redesigned. The layout is still the same. There's just new places to go and people to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    If you think they can build a complete new FFXIV in one year when 1.0 took them five years then you are kidding yourself. Take off the fanboy colored glasses.
    FFXIV 2.0 will have 2 years development before its final release in January 2013.

    Contrary to what people say on the FF11/14 forums square have not been working on FFxiv for 5 years. Anyone who knows Square know that when they announce a game with a trailer that does not mean they have started building the game. The Rapture trailer as a result shows somewhere which does not appear in FF14. In fact FF14 began work only a few years before release.

    Finally, FFXIV 2.0 is a complete remake, with new assets, but they are reusing some things (all instanced dungeons) which should cut down development time. SE have got to grips with this generation's graphics now, and are quite able to turn around a large game in 2 years, in the same way Assassin's Creed (a fairly large game) can be released every year.
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    All this hate in this forum.

    Why do I continue to come here, I wonder?

    Anycase, I really hope people've looked at XIV since 1.19 instead of thinking the game hasn't changed. If you have and then made the call that XI-2 is going to be more successful than XIV 2.0, that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvalkyr View Post
    All this hate in this forum.

    Why do I continue to come here, I wonder?

    Anycase, I really hope people've looked at XIV since 1.19 instead of thinking the game hasn't changed. If you have and then made the call that XI-2 is going to be more successful than XIV 2.0, that's fine.
    I just updated and logged in. Now I am logged out. Will come back when 2.0 hits sometime in 2013.
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    FFXIV doesn't have ps2 limitations
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    It's amazing that people with access to Square Enix's balance sheets and market research are members of this forum.
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