Thread: Final Fantasy XI 2.0

It's amazing that people with access to Square Enix's balance sheets and market research are members of this forum.

Originally Posted by Byrth

This is probably not a question that will be answerable by anyone who reads it, but I'm just throwing it out there because it's on my mind after looking at the announcement of an FFXIV re-release, dubbed FFXIV 2.0.

Why does SE choose to invest (what appears to be) a substantial amount of capital and manpower in a game that was received by the international community as an unqualified failure?

The scale of the changes detailed in that slideshow are so large that they would be comparable to re-releasing FFXI with better graphics and another (small-ish) expansion. You'd drop a lot of the infrastructure building they talk about, probably increase the graphical re-works required due to having more character models, increase some backbone code programming, and you'd have approximately the same amount of work.

Why in the world would you choose to invest in a title that's synonymous with failure instead of one that has nostalgia value for many MMO players? If you're trying to bring people back to the brand, this is not how to do it.

It is logical to invest in a project that offers opportunity and growth. FFXIV is new and has great potential. That's where their money should go. FFXI on the other hand is almost a decade old and its population is the remain of mostly hardcore/adddicts. The hardcore/addicts are very easy to please, a few patches here and there a year will make them happy. That's what SE is doing. They left a few devs to create a few bones a year and dangle them in front of our faces and make us labor as hard and as long as possible. The longer we get to the bones, the longer FFXI lives and the more money they get to invest in FFXIV

Originally Posted by Vitus

It is logical to invest in a project that offers opportunity and growth. FFXIV is new and has great potential. That's where their money should go. FFXI on the other hand is almost a decade old and its population is the remain of mostly hardcore/adddicts. The hardcore/addicts are very easy to please, a few patches here and there a year will make them happy. That's what SE is doing. They left a few devs to create a few bones a year and dangle them in front of our faces and make us labor as hard and as long as possible. The longer we get to the bones, the longer FFXI lives and the more money they get to invest in FFXIV

FFXIV is inhabited by fanboys, who are even easier to please than hardcores and addicts (case and point, they're playing FFXIV). Your definition of "potential for growth" basically boils down to graphics that could compete in the current market, which would be one of the facets of updating FFXI.

Nostalgia is marketable too, and FFXIV v2.0 isn't going to be able to shake the first half of its name.

Very few of you people know how to argue, or to view a situation from a decent perspective to make an argument from.

Originally Posted by Deadvinta

Very few of you people know how to argue, or to view a situation from a decent perspective to make an argument from.

Dialectic reasoning and critical thinking aren't taught seriously in NA schools any more until the 4-yr University level, so there you have it.

It doesn't help that most people aren't fact-checking or reading the thread for comprehension either.

FFXIV is inhabited by fanboys,

Um, so is FFXI.

FFXI fanboys hate FFXIV.

FFXIV fanboys don't hate FFXI, though.

Honest question: Whos gonna want to play FFXIV when everyone who managed to stick through that BS of the past year has every job maxed out? Whos gonna want to play catch up to that extent?

Remember what FFXI was like when NA's got involved.