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  1. #541
    Player Keyln's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Fixed! Man, you guys are callin' me out non-stop today. Spelled scholar wrong, Bayohne! I've never seen Adloquium-enhancing gear, Bayohne! We miss Camate, Bayohne!

    Man...
    You need the marbolo avatar before you'll be taken seriously around here.

    You with the moogle...just not working.
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  2. #542
    Player Delvish's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhronne View Post
    Yes yes, I agree. It's just that I have some sort of obsessive compulsive disease when it comes to inventory, and often I prefer a single generic piece that offers a performance of 8 (on a scale from 1 to 10) compared to 3 specific items that grant me a performance of 10 but in specific field.
    That isn't OCD, that is just efficient and often much more accepted nowadays given the inventory issue.
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  3. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhronne View Post
    Yes yes, I agree. It's just that I have some sort of obsessive compulsive disease when it comes to inventory, and often I prefer a single generic piece that offers a performance of 8 (on a scale from 1 to 10) compared to 3 specific items that grant me a performance of 10 but in specific field.
    I know that's not the way high-end players are supposed to behave, but when possible I always try to do that.
    I wish I had that disorder, I have the opposite one which compels me to carry around all 4 of the "Enhances Stoneskin" items. ... >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  4. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I wish I had that disorder, I have the opposite one which compels me to carry around all 4 of the "Enhances Stoneskin" items. ... >_<
    Me too, along with eight obis, 16 staves, blah blah. It's already gotten to the point where SCH not only has to decide between optimizations based on available strategems (which is enough, imo) but also based on what gear we care to fit in our bag. It seems like the plan is to only make this worse, unless the Adloquium gear introduction comes with another gobbie bag quest.
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  5. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merton9999 View Post
    Me too, along with eight obis, 16 staves, blah blah.
    I don't think getting an extra 120 or so HP from Stoneskin is a good gear choice, but the eight obis and the staves are pretty much neccisary to be fully effective.

    Of course, I'm just repeating this, but maybe this time we'll get it.

    The Elemental Obi need to be combined. The quest for this should be easy.

    The elemental staves should at least be combined by element (combine the Accuracy, Damage, and maybe the avatar perp) in a quest for each. Plus side if they also combine after that by skillchain parings like Fusion, Fragmentation, Gravitation, and Distortion. After this they should combined for Light and Darkness staves, and then to a single staff, through increasingly harder and harder quests.

    Thus, even if having a megastaff is only a dream for most people, most mages will only have to carry four or five staffs.
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  6. #546
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    All 8 obis and 16 staves is a bit overkill, if you ask me. I really dont see much use for fire or water staves at all, nor do I see much use for the macc staves. (At least not enough use to justify building them).

    The last time I cast a fire spell for damage and not procs was Bomb Queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  7. #547
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    There's no real need to have all 8 obis in inventory at the same time either. 16 staves is beyond overkill.

    Extra HP on stoneskin is a good gear choice... bar the earring.
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  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    There's no real need to have all 8 obis in inventory at the same time either. 16 staves is beyond overkill.

    Extra HP on stoneskin is a good gear choice... bar the earring.
    really? so you are going to limit your scholar's potential by not having every obi?

    and i dont know where your getting 16 staves from the max my scholar has on at a time is 9 possibly 10

    although i do agree the acc staves are pretty pointless as a scholar Ive never had a problem with acc the mab ones should do just fine for anyone or regular HQ

    to be honest any scholar whose worth his or her grimoire would honestly have all the obis or work towards it since they are the best to have for sch atm and quite easy to obtain just time consuming.
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  9. #549
    Player Delvish's Avatar
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    At a minimum, all scholars should have or be working towards Light, Dark, Ice, and Thunder obi as we are just as subject to the spell damage variations that Black Mages are. The only spells that didn't work like that were their AM2 spells, which everyone hopes we can match with Helix 2.

    I never did crunch the numbers personally, but since helixes always take the full weather bonuses, are they affected more by the elemental obi (and by extension Twilight Cape) or a high INT piece?
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    Samurai Archery is said to be a thing of the past, but it isn't dead yet!

  10. #550
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delvish View Post
    At a minimum, all scholars should have or be working towards Light, Dark, Ice, and Thunder obi as we are just as subject to the spell damage variations that Black Mages are. The only spells that didn't work like that were their AM2 spells, which everyone hopes we can match with Helix 2.

    I never did crunch the numbers personally, but since helixes always take the full weather bonuses, are they affected more by the elemental obi (and by extension Twilight Cape) or a high INT piece?
    I'm pretty sure obi has no effect, but the cape should. Dunno if anyone has actually posted testing. I use INT belt for my helixes.

    As for obis I carry dark/light/ice/thunder/wind (wind because it took too long for us to get blizz5).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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