[dev1020] WoE (and Voidwatch drops). can we pool them?

[Zaknafein]

I got 30 of each coin last week sometime. My totals stand currently at:

I didn't say I got all that in a week. I'm saying I arrived at a minimum of 30 of each type last week sometime. Aka it took me from the update till early last week to have enough coins to do a weapon of each coin type, and 11 mil in profits. Which seems like an acceptable span of time for 5 separate weapons, and a nice chunk of $$$.

[Nynja]

Presuming you did an average of 5 WoE runs since patch, which was 24 days ago...puts you at approx 120 runs, 120 hours of farming for 1 (inferior) weapon that you were targeting and 4 (inferior) weapons that you dont want / cant use. Theres the key words...dont want / cant use. Which means "loltoobadsosad"

[Zaknafein]

Presuming you did an average of 5 WoE runs since patch, which was 24 days ago...puts you at approx 120 runs, 120 hours of farming for 1 (inferior) weapon that you were targeting and 4 (inferior) weapons that you dont want / cant use. Theres the key words...dont want / cant use. Which means "loltoobadsosad"

On the contrary I am making one of the weapons from each coin path to compliment the empy I already have, and the Ukon I am in the process of finishing. These woe version's are fine for my less frequently used jobs, and didn't come with the added stipulation that I have to help on 2-3 other peoples weapons which is the norm for an empy static.

For players who do not dual box, or have no desire to join an empy static for w/e reason, or like people in my case who already have one or two empy's Woe serves it's purpose. 24 days of work for multiple WoE options, and a nice chunk of gil combined with the added bonus of doing it completely to suit your own schedule, and being beholden to no one is a decent trade off. Effort vs. Reward ratio seems balanced imo.

Additionally I didn't run out to abyssea when the update was released to level all 20 of my jobs to 95 like a noob. I went to WoE. So on the runs where I might not have received an OMGWTFBBQ loot pool it didn't break my heart because I was getting the xp I needed to get my jobs 90-95. It worked out well for me tyvm.

[Nynja]

These woe version's are fine for my less frequently used jobs, and didn't come with the added stipulation that I have to help on 2-3 other peoples weapons which is the norm for an empy static.

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ooooooooooooookayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

tell the nin/dnc that solo'd their kannagi they need a "2-3 other people"

[Zaknafein]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ooooooooooooookayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

tell the nin/dnc that solo'd their kannagi they need a "2-3 other people"

So you're saying because ninja can solo Kannagi (to 85) every other Empy works the same way. That makes all sorts of logical sense. Jeez I was terribly confused. Ty so much for showing me the light.

[Nynja]

Any empy can be duoed to 85 in a relatively short time frame with no risk, your average joe can easily abyssea xp a whm to 95 within 2 weeks and have their own pocket whm and 2box their own empy in a relatively short time frame. The only pressing matter is if they're too cheap to spend the 15$ a month.

[Zaknafein]

Any empy can be duoed to 85 in a relatively short time frame with no risk, your average joe can easily abyssea xp a whm to 95 within 2 weeks and have their own pocket whm and 2box their own empy in a relatively short time frame. The only pressing matter is if they're too cheap to spend the 15$ a month.

OK since you have that all figured out why don't you, and your whm mule go duo some Empies. That way you won't need to cry about how unjust WoE is.

Now take yourself out of the equation, and let's look at the rest of the ffxi population. Not everyone out there wants to dual box. Not everyone out there wishes to commit to a static. Some people have already built an empy, or two, or more, and are sick to death of abyssea.

Those are the ones who this system appeals to. Worst case scenario the only thing the event needs (imo not till the next update) is a npc who converts coins at a ratio of 3 to 1.

[Nynja]

Well you've got things figured out...you can say "anyone can upgrade 5 weapons at once in a short time", duh.

[Zaknafein]

Well you've got things figured out...you can say "anyone can upgrade 5 weapons at once in a short time", duh.

If by that you mean can people spam flux 7 several times a day for a 3-4 week period, and have pretty good odds of collecting 30 of each coin... then yes.

Like you so eloquently broke down for me earlier I did about 120 runs in 24 days which netted me to date:

Birth 53
Advance 41
Glory 35
Decay 32
Ruin 31
and 35 dice which translated into a little over 11 mil total from $$$drops/dice

That wasn't even doing all my runs in 7 either. Did a fair amount in #9, the turtle one (#10 i think), 10 or so in #11, and 10 or so in #5. If all you're after is coins you can do 7 exclusively. Once an hour for a total of about 20 mins from entry, the walk up, and the kill. Leaving you the remainder of the game day to do laundry, wash the dishes, do homework.. w/e you wish b4 you pop in, and make your next 20 minute commitment.

[Nynja]

so what you're saying is do more work for an inferior weapon, gotcha. high five. thanks troll


07: Chestnut log, Onyx, Mythril Ingot, Durium Ore, Light Opal

07 IS GREAT FOR COINS BRAH (thats me being fn frustrated over this stupid system...29/30, 7 runs later, still 29/30 cause theres no way to get the last coin other than hoping for the random number generator to be nice)