Klimaform as SCH sub

[Mirage]

as if any of the artifact weapons were actually game breakingly good anyway. No one cares that they can't use the war af axe, and no one would care if they could either.

[Jamesy]

as if any of the artifact weapons were actually game breakingly good anyway. No one cares that they can't use the war af axe, and no one would care if they could either.

again mirage i'm going to give you response since you can't comprehend apparently. i never said it was game breaking, but in itself it goes against artifact rules and should be changed unless square enix wants to give scholar a tier II version of the spell.

[Merton9999]

again mirage i'm going to give you response since you can't comprehend apparently. i never said it was game breaking, but in itself it goes against artifact rules and should be changed unless square enix wants to give scholar a tier II version of the spell.

You have two "rules" here that could have been stated before Klimaform reached sub levels. One is that no AF1 can be subbed. One is all spells can be subbed. Klimaform had to break one of these rules.

How do you figure out which one it should break? Well, for me, the fact that the SCH AF1 is a spell means it has already been going against artifact rules since 2007. It seems a perfectly logical next step to say that it's going to continue to follow rules for spells instead of rules for artifacts.

Again, though, I think this is not really a case of logic, it's a case of people feeling slighted, then trying to use logic to back up a pure emotional reaction. The real issue is that the 75-95 run has a lot of missteps in something a lot of people generally agree on - job-specific spells should be more powerful in the hands of the main job than in a subjob. Because of this, I'd much rather continue to suggest that SE make a Klimaform II or raise the potency if Klimaform for SCH main. I feel the same way about this as I do for Gravity for RDM main, and several other such examples.