Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[Pennylane]

If I have lead , damn straight I'm kicking afker's. If I don't , why should I find yet another party when I built my lights in this one? Key leechs are 1 thing , ppl who go afk just becuz they can is totally different. But then you probably leveled most of your jobs as leech

[Alhanelem]

why should I find yet another party when I built my lights in this one?

Because you don't like people in that party? I wouldn't party with people I don't like. It shouldn't take until your lights are built up to figure out that the party has a box opener or leecher. If you want control of the participants, then be the leader or team up with a leader who will kick idle players. Otherwise, you take the cards you're dealt.

You don't necessarily have to leave the zone and lose your lights to join another party.
Also, there's a huge difference between peopel AFKing and most "leechers." The latter are NOT afk, and are doing something time consuming that would slow the killing down if a DD or someone else was doing it- opening chests. That's in abyssea.
In Dynamis, that role isn't needed, but dynamis has a level 65 minimum, and if you meet that minimum, you're at least somewhat capable of contributing, so if you're not AFK, you're fine.

[VxdragonxV]

If I have lead , damn straight I'm kicking afker's. If I don't , why should I find yet another party when I built my lights in this one? Key leechs are 1 thing , ppl who go afk just becuz they can is totally different. But then you probably leveled most of your jobs as leech

I agree with you a key leech is fine but afk players get the boot in my party's as well.I the way i see it is if your not there to help then you are no help and will be reped with some one who will help ^^

the ppl who argue that it's ok to go afk is usually the ones who stay afk in partys lol

[Pennylane]

sigh , why should I have thought you might understand what I was saying..What I meant by leechers is this: People who afk for extended periods of time without saying brb. Even those who do leave for extended periods of time for reasons such as : I need a short nap..mind if I stay? I need to go pickup my drunk ass roommate..mind if I stay? Going out to pickup dinner , mind if I stay? ..etc. I didnt mean the ONE key leech thats there legit. TYVM.

[VxdragonxV]

sigh , why should I have thought you might understand what I was saying..What I meant by leechers is this: People who afk for extended periods of time without saying brb. Even those who do leave for extended periods of time for reasons such as : I need a short nap..mind if I stay? I need to go pickup my drunk ass roommate..mind if I stay? Going out to pickup dinner , mind if I stay? ..etc. I didnt mean the ONE key leech thats there legit. TYVM.

I understand what you are saying. The ppl im talking about are the ones who join then go afk and don't tell anyone or have been there 15 min and say have to run to town bb in 30 min or an hour. My point is if you join a party to afk then you are wasting everyones time and shouldn't be there.

[Pennylane]

Sorry VxdragonxV , I was actually talking to Alhanelem when I said :sigh , why should I have thought you might understand.."
And thankyou VxdragonxV for agreeing

[Dale]

I would caution people on this subject, as often times the cure is worse than the disease. Imagine some auto kick feature was introduced, and you were dced or had a sudden emergency and found yourself booted from the group when you returned? Perhaps a group you spent hours putting together? That would be a lot more annoying then enduring a few leechers in an abyssea alliance now and then.

Really I don't see the big issue here. Exp is easy enough to get on this game. If you find yourself in a group with too many "leechers" that it annoys you, simply leave the group and go get your own exp. Odds are if you are staying in the group anyway it's because you are getting better exp than you could alone, so not a whole lot to complain about really. Just leave if it annoys you so bad, or form your own groups with players you trust not to "leech".

[Izzybella]

I wish that they had it to where if you stand anywhere idle for more than 2 hrs you got booted...

Goodbye MH exit lag, Port Jeuno lag (or at least it would reduce it).

[Greatguardian]

I wish that they had it to where if you stand anywhere idle for more than 2 hrs you got booted...

Goodbye MH exit lag, Port Jeuno lag (or at least it would reduce it).

Goodbye Bazaars, ToD camping, LFP'ing outside the MH (useful to hear shouts yo), etc

[Icestein]

Oh look. It's this topic again.

When I get back into game I'm going to leech a job up. It'll be a barrel of fun.