Walk of the no Coin drops??? formerly Walk of echoes

[Seriha]

I've done 30-40 runs now (@7000-11000exp per run) and I have gotten 28 coins total, at 3-8 of each kind. I have a couple LS mates who have been spamming as well, and among all of our combined wins, only one person got a single pouch.
You claim 80 runs/236 coins. Your coin/run ratio seems really lucky, even with that pouch. You sure some of those not from pre-update?

I've personally 91 > 95'd two jobs through WoE, have yet to see a pouch or new scroll. I've gotten 4 advancement coins, 2 birth, then 1 of glory, decay, and whatever the other one I'm blanking on. I've had shellmates with me at times, and others they've run on their own. Nobody else has mentioned a pouch and only two people have gotten Thunder V. If I had to estimate the number of combined runs among 10 people in our shell, we're looking at at least 300 loot pools from the personal chests.

Easier should not mean longer, and anyone expressing concern on any kind of item acquisition from WoE once interest wanes has a legitimate worry as long as the only way to get loot is to win. Most everyone trying for scrolls and such now is for themselves, not to AH, and will stop once they get theirs. Seals are finite. VW isn't exactly pick up and play, and equally unreliable on loot.

[Vitus]

I've done 30-40 runs now (@7000-11000exp per run) and I have gotten 28 coins total, at 3-8 of each kind. I have a couple LS mates who have been spamming as well, and among all of our combined wins, only one person got a single pouch.
You claim 80 runs/236 coins. Your coin/run ratio seems really lucky, even with that pouch. You sure some of those not from pre-update?

They are all from post-update. Eyeballing the frequency, i would say 2 coins > 1 coins > nothing > 3 coins> pouch > 4 coins. The drop rate was consistent and steady.

I don't know if there is any correlation b/w xp and coin drop rate, can't speculate on that, but i was aiming for between 4-7k XP. Lower than that you get only 4 items/box. Higher, i tend to have better chance on item/scroll but not much coins. I got quite good many pouch drops, not just the only one i shown in the screenshot. I would say the majority of the coins i got were from pouches, not singles.

And if the amount of people in the zone affects the coins distribution or not, I have no idea so I can't speculate on that either. But at the time, there was only a few people doing 7 while the rest lining up for 8-11. The people doing 7 claimed to have good drop as well.

[Lyrminas]

Quote Originally Posted by Vitus View Post
Nice story telling... on the contrary, the real story is quite different. Good try bud.
Here is the true version: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...0925140451.jpg
And this is totally true one: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...927182820.jpg/

according to him, he is the scale.

can't wait to see more posts of people post their bags full of coins and bags claiming its 100% drop for them xD or some such nonsense.

[Draylo]

Nothing like a long grueling battle to earn your rightful reward of two logs and a gold ore ^.^

[Rearden]

110 runs, first 40-50 were in flux 9, the rest in flux 7

I got 14 pouches today, and my totals for 110 runs were 45 Ruin, 30 Glory, 35 Decay, 36 Birth, 25 Advancement

I was on a 75skill RDM mule trying to get a fakeUkon, and at one point I got two pouches in one treasure casket. Flux 7 is definitely the way to go, often got multiple coins and very rarely didn't get at least one. I still think it's a dumb system, because by the end of it I was 29/30 and had over 30 for the others. A change would be good since I really can't do anything with the rest of these and don't plan to either.

[Vitus]

according to him, he is the scale.

can't wait to see more posts of people post their bags full of coins and bags claiming its 100% drop for them xD or some such nonsense.

The amount of ignorance is incredible.
I have many more similar screenshots but I dicided not to show. I glad I did that because it seems you can't comprehend the sky is bigger than the top of the well. If you still think the earth is flat, i wish you a happy life.

It is too late, i rather sleep but oh well...

[MDenham]

In all honesty, I'd rather work on getting an OA2 Naboot +3, which I will happily fund from junk drops and overpriced dice. (Spells are getting handed out to people on my LS instead if I don't need them.) When that's done, if people are still doing WoE, I'll work on funding a relic the same way.

[Seriha]

Snips of my loot pools from the 4 runs of 11 I did last night on my DRK, each one breaking 7k EXP at least.

If everyone claiming high coins is only doing 7, then it seems more like there's an issue with the new fluxes and possibly unintended low drop rates not unlike Colorless Souls or other Abyssean NM items. Ideally, coin rates should be uniform, or at the very least, BETTER in the harder fluxes because the mobs are more difficult.

[hiko]

Or maybe they are listening to the few hardcore players complaining about content being to easy. I bet if could take a poll of all the players most would want more abyssea style content where drops are not as random as they use to be pre abyssea.

SE, you need to understand that when we ask harder we dont want easy fight where we need 18 people to raise odd of wanted drop from 0.1% to 5% that any bunch of retard can do as long as there is enough body, but "harder" fight with decent drop rate

[Lyrminas]

@ Vitus - hahaha, you gotta chill out man, learn to spot sarcasm . Didn't know you'd take that to heart, my apologies.

Drops then, and now.
Regarding the drops, I just think it's a few steps too many backwards considering it was really easy to make the weapons before for most people who organized 5 and went to do the runs. For those who soloed the fluxes before the update, I don't know about them but you'd gotta be crazy thinking you'd finish 30 in a reasonable time doing that, it is not that hard to make a group of 5 including yourself to go do that xD. Also the quality of drops... honestly why all this garbage? Every developer runs out of ideas but this is just bad lol.

Maybe I'm wrong to assume there are more people that are aiming for specific coins than the idea of " why don't I just make Woe weapons for all jobs after 100 runs " kind of mentality. Just from opinions around people I know, this update to WoE is not popular. To me it got difficult to obtain Tobi, so I went with the real deal and finished 85 in 4 days by leading pick up groups. Of course this probably only applies to kannagi and almace? I hear the other emps are a bit more to handle or just take quite a bit of time to gather the Ki's like Vereth and Glavoid, and we're talking doing this on your own without LS backup.

To get to the point, all I want to say is in my 'limited' experience with the new WoE and what was available to me, the "harder" route was easier than the mediocre route. This makes no sense as far as progression goes in a MMO.

Like previous posters have stated, this benefited the " I have all 95's " people more than the " I just want this, because I don't have time for x " people. I'm willing to wager a cookie that there are much more of the latter than people boasting their "I get frayed pouches every run" people xD.

Content Quality.
Please... lets be honest here, its a zombie fest and a buncha lone wolf pet jobs that carry the fight to the win. Other than the very rare chance of getting spells and people aiming for low-end emperyean weapons, it has no other redeeming qualities, and of course this is my opinion, like everyone else.

sounds like after all the feedback and the response from the devs, they're just gonna strong arm it. gg xD