Walk of the no Coin drops??? formerly Walk of echoes

[brayen]

IMO a WoE weapon should probably not take much longer than 2-3 weeks of regular WoEing, if you do the event roughly every other day or 1-1.5 weeks if you do it every day. It might seem easymode, but really, the weapons are noticably weaker than the real empyrean weapons, and therefore should also take noticable less time to complete.

That is indeed the point, sadly i think they are trying to go the route of make emp so much drastically harder to get to 95 that other trials will pale in comparison. I am not sure but the ugly in this update FAR outshadow the fun/ new stuff they added. 100 die 1500 plates less coins rare drops on scrolls etc etc. i think this is the overall outlook most players are seeing, they turned the reward/effort ratio back from attainable and fun to MASSIVE grinding for tiny gains. Game was holding a friendly casual pace, but they seem to be changing it all back which saddens me a great deal.

[Eradius]

Actually know what. If you have a decent team of people, at this rate- you can get some Empyreans to 85 BEFORE YOU WOULD GET THIRTY COINS....

I'm sorry, something is wrong with that. The LS I'm in has gotten people most 85's in under 3 weeks, and this couple coins a day crud would take that much time or longer. There is no way that is fair and balanced.

[brayen]

Actually know what. If you have a decent team of people, at this rate- you can get some Empyreans to 85 BEFORE YOU WOULD GET THIRTY COINS....

I'm sorry, something is wrong with that. The LS I'm in has gotten people most 85's in under 3 weeks, and this couple coins a day crud would take that much time or longer. There is no way that is fair and balanced.

The problem isn't that it would take that long for the coins, it is that it would take that much longer to get the dice

85 empy is stronger then WoE version AND WoE version doesn't look like it will even gain anything outside a slight base dmg increase, which leaves A LOT to be desired sadly.

[Mirage]

Yeah, there is no real chance that the WoEs will ever get close to the power of empyreans. The only way to make them relevant is to make them faster to make, so that you can casually do it over two weeks without a decent team to help you.

[noodles355]

Easiest solution is to make Coins tradeably like Devious Die. That way Ic an bazaar my 26 coins of ruin for 5k each and buy the 13 Coins of Decay I need at 100k each.

[Kaych]

Haha, I have special rare/ex rings that absorb that kind of stuff. Pretty high proc rate too

But on a serious note, I am here for you guys

I just love you!

[Rya]

Haha, I have special rare/ex rings that absorb that kind of stuff. Pretty high proc rate too :)

But on a serious note, I am here for you guys ;)

Camate, Camate, you're so great! :D
For improvements that you facilitate! :D
For the diplomacy you demonstrate! :D
And all your responses we eagerly await! :D

[SpankWustler]

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Don't worry, bro, we still think you're great!

[Airget]

Easiest solution is to make Coins tradeably like Devious Die. That way Ic an bazaar my 26 coins of ruin for 5k each and buy the 13 Coins of Decay I need at 100k each.

Agreed, the issue seems to be with obtaining coins. I don't think that you should remove the aspect of random loot even if it is junk. That's just the way the chest roll. As mentioned earlier the 3-5 random loot does provide the Ah with loot that may otherwise be rare and make it easier for people to level certain crafts.

If you remove the chance to obtain 3-5 pieces of loot I think it would discourage people if they go into 10 runs and get nothing out of their personal chest. While sure it may suck to see a bone chip at least you know every time you go in you can get 3-5 items. I really don't think there's any need to change the chest when you consider the balance of each loot acquisition.

If I'm not mistaken you can obtain scrolls from WoE, Voidwatch and the new BCNMS. With WoE for the most part the difficulty of wins is low and it's only a 1hr attempt each time. With Voidwatch you have more control over the quantity/quality of your loot but the difficulty is a tad higher. As for BCNMS I'd say due to the 15 min time restriction those are the most troublesome atm especially when you have the battles where you have to defeat the minions in order to beat the big dude.

But ya for those who want the scrolls I would say try the BCNMs or even voidwatch, with BCNMs you only need 5 other people and I would think the odds of getting a scroll you want would be easier plus it would go faster then a WoE. With WoE you have to wait an hour before doing each one and completion can take anywhere from 15-45 mins to win. With the voidwatch you can attempt it as many times as you'd like as long as you have the stones. With BCNMs due to the time restriction you can get 6 loot pools in an hour and 30 minute time period. As long as you do BCNMs with friends who are trying to get scrolls and help one another I'd say that's the best route to take though if you don't have that many to attempt it with then the best route would be to continue WoE and accept the fact that because of how it's setup you won't always get the best route. It's a luck process as long as you're persistent you'll get what you want but if you want something like scrolls you're prolly better off doing the other two events.

But again in terms of coins the easiest fix for that would be to make them like devious dice and the mirrors. Due to the amount of people doing WoE now the ability to obtain the WoE version of weapons should be a lot easier but I would say it is tougher now. With the amount of runs I've done I don't think I even managed to obtain 10 of one coin type lol. If they simply just made the coins bazarrable I would think that's the simplest solution they could go with rather then revamp the whole loot system since as it stands now I much rather have 3-5 loot even if it is junk then go through a campaign like everyone lots system or only get loot if it's a really rare item.

[Vortex]

However the problem is Coins are for certain weapons....Coin of Ruin is for ....staff...so needless to say you more then likely won't even get anyone to buy those. Maybe add or even out which weapons the coins are for.