What new Jug Pets would you like to see 91-99?

[Zaknafein]

It wasn't meant in a literal sense... holding them for an unreasonable amount of time. Happy now?

[Xilk]

It wasn't meant in a literal sense... holding them for an unreasonable amount of time. Happy now?

Uhmmm the disagreement wasn't about holding it for a long time... it was about a 5/5 perle bst doing it. You need 2x pdt- axes upgraded, ferine quijotes +1 or 2, and anwig salade, at least to do it....

Total bull. With a set up that allows pets to take 0 damage, neither you nor your pet could accumulate enough hate to be tanking in the first place because you've got no/only 1 damage dealing atmas equipped.

And every single enemy has either an instant death move, a hate reset move, a throat stab, casts magic, or simply one shots the pet with a ws when the regen takes it to 51% hp, so it's a moot point anyway. Your pet will still take very impressive amounts of damage and lose hate right quick, or die outright. It was, at best a good tank when the two real tanks you brought are both weakened. And with Mijin Gaikure that rarely happened anyway.

and you obviously misunderstood my post.

Pre-nerf tanking Ningishzada was very easy. RR + Lion both counted towards DD. Triple attack is nice to have on pet afterall. and when pet was taking 0 damage its really hard for NM to reduce hate on it. Especially when I snarl after every rampage.
Also, pre-nerf, I was not using a regen atma.. that would be silly. It only allowed mobs to do more damage on pet. pet goes down ot 50% hp and stays there indefinitely unless there were a good DoT or spell.

This is kinda moot now anyway, but I had no trouble tanking for a SMALL group or party before the nerf. I kept hate ON the pet. well, until my war friend got Ukko's fury anyway... I couldn't keep hate from that going off..

[Zaknafein]

Uhmmm the disagreement wasn't about holding it for a long time... it was about a 5/5 perle bst doing it. You need 2x pdt- axes upgraded, ferine quijotes +1 or 2, and anwig salade, at least to do it....

Which is exactly what I said. Pre nerf anyone with Ducal & Lion could burn their bst to 90 make two pdt axes (which is shockingly easy) go buy some jugs, and pet food then proceed to whittle away at a variety of NM's. Was that zero pdt? No. However it was plenty to get the job done in most cases.

People started bandwagoning this because instead of having to level <insert solo job here> and skill up/gear a job all they had to do was make that minimum time investment into bst. That is what people were raging about in those threads I spoke of. Then within 2 weeks of those discussions the nerf was handed down. Seems fairly cut, and dry.

Post nerf can you still have excellent pdt on a pet? Absolutely, but you have to at least make some effort to do so. Not just burn a job to 90. Buy jugs, and pet food. Stir in 2 atmas, and wa la you're a god.