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    Quote Originally Posted by Granny View Post
    The very life and death of our job is at hand. No matter how many times its been mentioned, it needs to be once more, and kept in the spot light and top of our request priorities!

    Beastmasters need up coming content to involve the acutal job itself, which is the ability to charm monsters. So lets remind SE again, and how many ever times it takes that beastmasters need new high level pets, not just pets but pets IN areas which there is a use for them, AND said use to actually be not worthless meaning we want to use charmed pets in most if not all the new content to come, and for things like voidwatch.

    No matter how it is spun, twisted and turned, warped or altered, half decent jug pets are not a solid viable alternative or replacement for charmed pets and is nothing more than it has always been, a expensive, usualy quick to die, weak emergency replacment for a charmed pet.

    If the beastmaster community's requests are not met on this issue, the "real" joy of playing the job itself will be lost forever.

    Now is the time for bst's to band together full force on this issue when it counts the most, because now is the time window of posibility for the future of bst to be made right.
    Little overly dramatic there man...

    Yes, charm needs to become a meaningful part of our arsenal again. However, are you forgetting your old days on beast? There was plenty of content we were shut out of, with or without jugs for most of the history of the job. As I said in the "which jug?" thread, anything that was magic ot TP spam happy was a weakness for us. We had such a rep as soloers that even if we wanted to help or needed help ourselves we were often told to "go solo it"... which couldn't always be done.

    So yes, Voidwatch and WoE are out as far as charming, as Aby has always been, many of the BCNMs, many assaults, even most campaign and all beseiged. That's why SE threw us a bone with jugs in the 1st place. Now that they finally made jugs tough enough to be a semi-viable alternative to charmed pets-at least on their regular attacks if not their specials-I've personally seen us getting some party love. I've actually been ASKED to come beast, despite having multiple alternatives.

    The fact is, there are multiple things that can be done now, and if you didn't notice in the update, none of them were put into Abyssea. GoV is tailor-made for beast. As a pup as well I can tell you you could get alot of love just farming pup attachments and throwing them on the AH, and that's not all there is. Beast has always been a farming machine, in some ways even better than thief (yes, I have a 90 thief, I know what I speak of here), and higher-end prey has been added to areas where we can charm, even without our AF/Relic/+charm set.

    Here's the deal, no 1 job is able to handle all types of battles, never have been, never will. Have you ever heard the term "pick your battles"? That's really the heart of playing beast. Do they need to expand options for us to charm and fight again? Of course. However, that seems to be exactly the course they are on. With or without pages there is plenty of stuff we can do in charming areas, and there's another lvl-cap to come that will in all likelyhood expand that. Our jugs being up there means that we can make valuable contributions in the non-charm areas, too. Have you ever seen what a bst can do in WoE?! We destroy the place! And that's a jug fight. Pet spam is also a viable tactic in Voidwatch on many fights. The BCNM-type battles have always been a mixed bag of "charm here, jug there", so that's not really a change for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Little overly dramatic there man...

    Yes, charm needs to become a meaningful part of our arsenal again. However, are you forgetting your old days on beast? There was plenty of content we were shut out of, with or without jugs for most of the history of the job. As I said in the "which jug?" thread, anything that was magic ot TP spam happy was a weakness for us. We had such a rep as soloers that even if we wanted to help or needed help ourselves we were often told to "go solo it"... which couldn't always be done.

    So yes, Voidwatch and WoE are out as far as charming, as Aby has always been, many of the BCNMs, many assaults, even most campaign and all beseiged. That's why SE threw us a bone with jugs in the 1st place. Now that they finally made jugs tough enough to be a semi-viable alternative to charmed pets-at least on their regular attacks if not their specials-I've personally seen us getting some party love. I've actually been ASKED to come beast, despite having multiple alternatives.

    The fact is, there are multiple things that can be done now, and if you didn't notice in the update, none of them were put into Abyssea. GoV is tailor-made for beast. As a pup as well I can tell you you could get alot of love just farming pup attachments and throwing them on the AH, and that's not all there is. Beast has always been a farming machine, in some ways even better than thief (yes, I have a 90 thief, I know what I speak of here), and higher-end prey has been added to areas where we can charm, even without our AF/Relic/+charm set.

    Here's the deal, no 1 job is able to handle all types of battles, never have been, never will. Have you ever heard the term "pick your battles"? That's really the heart of playing beast. Do they need to expand options for us to charm and fight again? Of course. However, that seems to be exactly the course they are on. With or without pages there is plenty of stuff we can do in charming areas, and there's another lvl-cap to come that will in all likelyhood expand that. Our jugs being up there means that we can make valuable contributions in the non-charm areas, too. Have you ever seen what a bst can do in WoE?! We destroy the place! And that's a jug fight. Pet spam is also a viable tactic in Voidwatch on many fights. The BCNM-type battles have always been a mixed bag of "charm here, jug there", so that's not really a change for us.
    The only thing that came to mind after reading that was why did you even bother.
    Your pro bst right? ... lol

    Ya bst jugs are actually "useable" now, but in no way even come close to being a viable alternative to charm as it currently stands. GoV is crap, who cares about charming for that? Pet spam for Voidwatch... you know about the job beastmaster right...? Did you just get charm and call beast mixed up...

    Once again, you are after beast becoming improved from its current state right...?
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