Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[Greatguardian]

I would have had a much more annoying time farming my Empyreans if such a silly function was in place. When I had over 1,200 minutes in Abyssea - Tahrongi, my buddies and I just left our characters online near #01 and went to sleep so we didn't have to rebuild lights or worry about time when we woke up. We were definitely afk for at least 6 hours, but we weren't bothering anyone. I know of at least a dozen other Empyrean owners who have used similar strategies. Not having to worry about TE or lights cuts down a *Ton* of time and lets you focus entirely on NMs.

I also had no issue with bringing in my friend's level 30 WHM mule to leech exp up to 90 just sitting there while he pulled cleaves on his Thf. He's a veteran player, leveling up a mule to help himself solo things. The mule didn't affect my gameplay, and it was another body with which to hold a pop set for Chloris. I was better off for having it there. He was better off for having it there.

inb4 Anecdotal evidence about how afk'ing at 01 caused someone's console to explode.

[Rambus]

Then we need to stop being babies. :P

it was a test in human nature that someone did, that was my point in the post, peopel cant stand getting something better then going back

I would have had a much more annoying time farming my Empyreans if such a silly function was in place. When I had over 1,200 minutes in Abyssea - Tahrongi, my buddies and I just left our characters online near #01 and went to sleep so we didn't have to rebuild lights or worry about time when we woke up. We were definitely afk for at least 6 hours, but we weren't bothering anyone. I know of at least a dozen other Empyrean owners who have used similar strategies. Not having to worry about TE or lights cuts down a *Ton* of time and lets you focus entirely on NMs.

I also had no issue with bringing in my friend's level 30 WHM mule to leech exp up to 90 just sitting there while he pulled cleaves on his Thf. He's a veteran player, leveling up a mule to help himself solo things. The mule didn't affect my gameplay, and it was another body with which to hold a pop set for Chloris. I was better off for having it there. He was better off for having it there.

inb4 Anecdotal evidence about how afk'ing at 01 caused someone's console to explode.

more reason for what the OP said should be in place, there is a cap 120 min saved for a reason

emps are easy enough.

though people might try work around that by auto running into walls, people are always trying to abuse systems.

[Detoxy]

If u dont like it then dont join the Alliance or leave its that simple. Plus peps can get jobs up much easier this way.

[Alhanelem]

Really, why can't people accept the situation and just not play with people you don't like (because they're "leeching")? They're not harming anyone but possibly themselves.

[Greatguardian]

more reason for what the OP said should be in place, there is a cap 120 min saved for a reason

emps are easy enough.

What? Is saving the extreme amounts of time you've accumulated by not leaving a zone somehow exploiting the mechanic? Emps are easy. Not having to rebuild lights or worry about time doesn't make them easier, it makes them less tedious. I don't understand how any of that affects your gameplay, or heck, how any of that can even be considered improper. Getting 1,000+ minutes is not cheating, it's getting 1,000+ minutes. It's not like they just rained down for free.

[MarkovChain]

When I had over 1,200 minutes in Abyssea - Tahrongi..

You spent the whole day farming time so that you can sleep and stay in abyssea ?

Not having to worry about TE or lights cuts down a *Ton* of time and lets you focus entirely on NMs.

30 minutes, top.

[Samunai]

i agree with harpy up here

there enough ppl stupid enough to have a job at a high level, leeched through afking and have to skill up the rest of their days to even do some considerable damage. Even I did some leeching, i wont deny, it was cool last summer when key-*hore was introduced. But i think only a handful (like me) take their time to actually learn the job and not "attack, ws, boom' it all.

All together I leeched only 4 jobs, and i have 14 jobs atm. and I think i can call at least 3 of those jobs; i own the way how to use it. (on is still in progress of perfecting ;P). Its not that i defend myself its merely i /disgust at ppl who dont think its prior is about how to use and gear ur job. I see soooo many thfs in full aurore with stupid level 50 dex rings , ... even one with mandau! (bahamut servers players know who im talking about )

At the start of this abyssea run on leeching i told a few peeps SE did this on intent; making ppl at 30 possible to enter. And u know why? its all.... about... politics and 'knowing the right friends'. Politics bc: ppl discuss about the matter ppl are leeching, like we do here. We decide if we kick ppl or not, or invite ppl or not (who afk, or are just plain dump crash exp chains w/e more) we disucss lots of shit in /p when we do parties in abyssea about what is right or not, or what can be allowed or not. The right friend policy if about having the right friends who will let u be able to leech or normal pt with them. If u know the right 'evil' friends, they let u leech all u want and be gimped with 20x 90'(+) jobs.... and run away with all the prizes/KI's and w/e mre that drop.

Abyssea is mere a game of psychological base. If ppl have enough stuff in their guts then they will learn the job and not just level it. If u have a strong psychological state of mind, u know u have to skill up, help curing leeching (/whm or w/e) help open box, gear it up and farm for gills so pay for it, make a fair enough drop system in treasure and with KI's and AUG items and AF shoes, be nice to ppl and keep them all being nice to you (networking!:P), make it an effort to search for ppl so ur alliance can go on killing and not those 3 have to go 'afk' from killing to find their rep. blabalbalbal. If u cann cope with allllll of this; then ur OK to leech from me, even if u make ur job a job like how it should play.

but.... if u ... go afk and dont intend to learn ur *ucking job. DAMN right imma be haunting u forever! Or go play WoW if it goes to slow for ya! everything needs practise and time. Go live with it or gtfo and live ur REAL LIFE life....


aaah... thats a relief...

[Greatguardian]

You spent the whole day farming time so that you can sleep and stay in abyssea ?



30 minutes, top.

30 minutes per session, and it adds up if you take more sittings to complete the weapon. The weapons are only a 20~ish hour time commitment as is, splitting that into 6 sessions adds 3 hours of work to it. That's a 15% increase in workload.

And no, I did not need to spend the whole day farming time. Cata-cleaving left me with more than enough TEs while farming pop sets for the NMs. With the number of people I let leech chest exp, we were never in short supply of bodies to hold KIs, giving Cleaving a time advantage over specific NM hunting (in Tahrongi).

[Laverda]

Just kick inactive leeches from the party/alliance. Then they'll just sit there until they're kicked out without getting any benefits. No need to do anything on the game mechanics level.

Sometimes you have to check up on people you don't know, target them and see where they are. We found one hiding inside a martello once.

[Miera]

I honestly wish the cap was at 75 for Abyssea because I felt that Abyssea should be meant for high leveling XP parties/merit parties. Also, its not so much of the fact that you join so many parties with leechers, its the fact that everyone can burn their job to 90 and not know how to use their job properly. I mean, I had a level 90 WHM ask me how their Afflatus abilities work and you get them so early in the level to get time to understand what it does.