What new Jug Pets would you like to see 91-99?

[Istabpeople]

Ruszor \o.o/

[Raka]

You mean the drain attack that drains ~150hp? The single attack that will deal ~300 and AoE that will do ~300? No self buffs, low HP? I cant think about anything else than holding physical hitting mobs forever to get even more rage from all ppl waiting to kill. All serious NMs now has magical TP moves that will make slime vaporize. It was only BSTs dream because at 75 while duo or solo Slime pet was best to kill regular IT w/o switching your pet that often. For endgame it's a very poor choice.

Sounds like trolling cause of my opinion. c.c And for the record, I've seen some potent TP attacks from Slime against other monsters within the same level range as charmed pet for about 700~. When you say "All -serious- NMs now have Magical TP moves", did you remember we can just brush that off w/ Reward for most cases? Are you implying "All series -Abyssea- NMs" only?

Let's look at it from this perspective. Slime keeping it's natural -50% PDT trait...used with Anwig Salade (Pet: PDT -10%) and the two Pet: PDT -10% Axes, and Stout Servant + from Emp legs...getting roughly -85% PDT on it now.. So unless something can one-shot the Slimes entire HP bar(highly unlikely in most cases) with magic...you're gonna have a well defended pet that can deal enough damage still on it's own. This pet needs no "self-buffs" being it's natural trait is -50% PDT. I would like to know of which NMs you speak that you consider as "serious", lol. Please enlighten me. ^.^

We're uncertain of how potent the attacks will be however once it has been added so I can understand your "concern".
My guess is we'll be looking forward to a decent range of 500~800 damage from Fluid Toss or Fluid Spread.

Point here is: I made my vote, I stated my reasons, you made your vote, you trolled my vote because it was simply different. Please learn to respect others decisions and keep your By all means though, feel free to keep trolling people for their votes/opinions. Good job! ^.^/

Might as well be BST haters that want worst for us or noobs that have no idea of game mechanic. Popularity contest really is a worst way to balance the game but nothing I can do about it.

Once more you are trolling people for their personal opinions, and I would like to thank Gotterdammerung for a more professional explanation in his post.

[Ophannus]

Go Slime if you BSTs wanna remain soloers for the rest of your existence. Choose Scorp if you actually wanna contribute to endgame meaningfully for once.

[Raka]

Go Slime if you BSTs wanna remain soloers for the rest of your existence. Choose Scorp if you actually wanna contribute to endgame meaningfully for once.

Troll elsewhere, please? The poll was made to take each individuals personal opinion/vote, not to hate on people for what they should or should not choose. Besides, I can't remember the last time I was ever asked to do a group activity as Beastmaster...when I am capable of using a healing class, tank class, and so forth. Not saying Beastmaster is useless for group activities...but let's be honest now. Do you ever bother asking someone to come to a group event as Beastmaster anyways?

So don't criticize someones choice for a new Jug Pet. Just simply vote for what you would like to see and let that be the end of it. How disappointing will this be if the Scorpion doesn't even meet everyones expectation for damage? Just using this as an example, but are you assuming it's going to be popping off a 1~2k Death Scissors at the cost of 1 charge every moment it gets TP? Let's be a little realistic.

With all due respect, the point here is so that we can vote for what we would like to see, please refrain from trolling people because of their choices.

[jjmyst]

charmable abby mobs......yes please.

[Glamdring]

Go Slime if you BSTs wanna remain soloers for the rest of your existence. Choose Scorp if you actually wanna contribute to endgame meaningfully for once.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean here. Bst can contribute in a major way to a party, we just don't NEED to wait for a party if we choose not to.

I run an Aby LS. I recently did my -pet pdt axes and got DG (was a low priority since I always ran as a brd), and since then have been coming bst. I have pet tank anything but the magic spam-happy mobs and the rest of the LS is on proc duty. Thus, the entire LS lives AND we don't have the crap drops from essentially being unable to proc anything that I do solo. The whole group benefits. The same holds true in Dynamis where I can have a pet hold stuff until the rest of the group can join me. Same in salvage. Even better in GoV since I can finally charm again. If you think bst can't contribute in end-game you obviously have alot to learn; it's a choice, not a lack of ability.

Now, as to the person speculating 7-800 damage specials from slimes? What do you base that on? The pattern is to top out at about 600 on the jugs since 75 and usually alot less. And I'm sorry to say but all jug pets seem to be nerfed compared to their wild counterparts. Granted, slime would be a great pet IF they gave us one that was equivalent to a wild slime of the same level, but I find it highly doubtful based on the developer's history with our jugs.

Same holds true for Scorp; it's doubful Sharp Strike would be any stronger than sheep Rage (however, given the natural proclivity to attack of scorp the numbers WOULD end up higher, just not by much). Scorps also have crappy eva and their defense is a bad joke at best. Not to mention we have no need of yet another vermin pet.

Aquan is a gap in our present jugs and most of us are still plenty familiar with crab pets... not that I really care for them. Avian has always been a gap, but we will supposedly have Apkallu so that will cover that. If we get the slug, coupled with the leech we already have amorph is nicely coverred. Hecteyes is also an amorph, but the reason I voted for it was the hole in our arsenal for dealing with magic. However, the lack of ability to deal with magic by bst is I think by design as a game balance thing, so even if we got one it probably wouldn't cast. If you have to fight a magic mob you're gonna be stuck with the coeurls for silence/para. Ruszor could be a good magic pet IF the magic shield ability isn't completely nerfed down to just shell levels.

Whatever, my vote remains hecteyes, so it really doesn't count based on the current numbers

[Raka]

Now, as to the person speculating 7-800 damage specials from slimes? What do you base that on? The pattern is to top out at about 600 on the jugs since 75 and usually alot less. And I'm sorry to say but all jug pets seem to be nerfed compared to their wild counterparts. Granted, slime would be a great pet IF they gave us one that was equivalent to a wild slime of the same level, but I find it highly doubtful based on the developer's history with our jugs.

If you reread my post it was an estimate of 500~800, not 700~800. Only an estimate. And according to rumors I've heard, the Slime will retain it's native physical damage trait. I'm also very well aware that Jug Pets will not be equal to the natives.

Please read posts carefully next time. If you can show me otherwise regarding the Slime and their Physical Damage reduction trait, please do so.

[Glamdring]

the slime pdt trait I simply base on the pattern with past jugs. example, leeches have damage resistance, to blunt iirc. However, I have charmed leeches AND i have used Fatso in the same area, the resistance is higher on the charmed leech, in fact Fatso's resistance is almost non-existant.

as to the 7-800, that was a typo, but I still think any damage off a TP attack in excess of maybe 600 is highly unlikely based on the jugs and their TP moves they've given us so far. if it was only 1 jug that was limited to such low numbers I might go along with that estimate, but it's EVERY jug, unless you are fighting something weak to the TP move's form of damage... THAT'S a pattern. Actually, getting much past 350 without something to buff the damage seems pretty rare (excepting Abyssea where all the game mechanics are so screwy [especially given the various Atmas that can be used] that you can't really make a damage statement without qualifying it with your gear/atma set from a sepcified pet on a specified prey). Don't get me wrong, IF the -pdt stays slime would give us a similar tank pet as we get in aby from a -pet pdt set and DG atma... assuming it can do enough damage to hold hate.

Of course by that logic ruszor would be better since ready would let us choose a -pdt or -mdt set-up. I just don't believe they would ever give us something that strong. Given their nerf pattern I doubt any resistance trait-especially if it's fulltime on a pet-would ever be allowed to exceed maybe 10-12.5%.

[Mayoyama]

Geez... Ruszor started out so strong and then really dwindled lol

So far 31 Ruszor, 46 Scorpion/Scolopendrid, 18 Slime and some random ones that weren't even on the final list to be voted for (guessing people missed the "final vote" post or just cant read)

I personally vote for Ruszor, but it looks like for english players scorp is going to win... guess its up to seeing whether JP forums agree.

[Miera]

Slime, nuff said