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  1. #51
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Snickerrz
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    I've lost important cells in salvage (when it was first added) and the rage at the rest of my group taught me not to do it again, I haven't done it since which has been years. If you are going to brew in an emergency move >20 cause para will eat any item you try to use, if there is even a chance it can use a tp move that can para while you try to use do the same thing.

    I do agree it's a bug though and should probably be fixed, there is no real sense in it from a gameplay standpoint.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rah View Post
    Are you kidding me, paralyzed, about to die, had a brew to save my life, but no. 200k cruor down the drain because para ate my brew. this is some bull. not even back in my temps, just gone. Complete gone, waste of 200k. that is really some bull. I understand that most items can be eaten by para. i accept this. but most items dont take 8 hours to farm. and can be made generally quickly. i mean really. BREWS shouldnt be affected by paralyze. IT COST TO DAMN MUCH. I would like to know what you SE are gonna do about it. cause this is beyond comical.

    What did you expect to happen? Paralyze prevents you from taking ANY action, is that so hard to understand? This is knowledge as old as the game. You can't attack, cast spells or use items if paralyze triggers.

    You must be one of those new players that power leveld his character in Abyssea in 2 weeks. Learn to play the game and stop bitching about a game mechanic that is as old as the game itself.
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    Is 20 dmg for the hit like 30 dmg if a RNG shoots?

    No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
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    Try BST BST COR GEO WHM BRD You can melee and fight with your pet..

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    I agree i think its fine not to be able to use an item , but to lose it is ridiculous.How did i lose it if i wasnt able to use it ? I think there should just be a time limit b4 you can try to use it again thats penalty enuf.
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  4. #54
    Player Mirabelle's Avatar
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    No debuff should eat into your pocketbook. Bottom line.
    While accidents are largely avoidable, they still happen. Humans make mistakes. In a game it shouldn't be so costly to make a simple mistake like not noticing you had para status before consuming a brew.
    I'm fine with para blocking your ability to use an item, but the item shouldn't disappear. And I'm fine with blocking causing a cool down before re-use.
    So I accept that the OP made a mistake he likely could have avoided but I also feel the punishment doesn't match the crime.
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    Yo Ho Yo Ho, a pirate's life for me!

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    I wish someone could fix the title of this thread.

    Engrish is Engrish.
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  6. #56
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    No debuff should eat into your pocketbook.
    Yes, they should. And they have, for 8 years. Silenced? Echo drops eat into your pocket book. Guess they should give them away for free then. Doomed? Dang, those holy waters sure screw you over. Oh yeah, those antidotes, we can't have those costing anything, even though they have for every final fantasy game ever created.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirabelle View Post
    No debuff should eat into your pocketbook. Bottom line.
    While accidents are largely avoidable, they still happen. Humans make mistakes. In a game it shouldn't be so costly to make a simple mistake like not noticing you had para status before consuming a brew.
    I'm fine with para blocking your ability to use an item, but the item shouldn't disappear. And I'm fine with blocking causing a cool down before re-use.
    So I accept that the OP made a mistake he likely could have avoided but I also feel the punishment doesn't match the crime.
    I see your point, at first i was thinking leave it as is but yeah I can see something like this being placed.

    how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?

    rambus uses light arts.
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits enlightenment
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits tabula rasa
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed

    rambus is still unable to cast paralyna...

    linkshell whipes*
    linkshell > wtf rambus
    rambus> sorry game hates me

    *overdramazation to get a point across
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    I see your point, at first i was thinking leave it as is but yeah I can see something like this being placed.

    how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?

    rambus uses light arts.
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits enlightenment
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits tabula rasa
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed
    rambus hits addendum: white
    rambus is paralyzed

    rambus is still unable to cast paralyna...

    linkshell whipes*
    linkshell > wtf rambus
    rambus> sorry game hates me

    *overdramazation to get a point across
    i'd say the game is working as inteded

    Because here the para stopped you from using the ability but you can still try again when you timer is ready, the para didnt take away your ability permanently like it does an item, you just have to wait till your timer is up.

    So i think what people are asking here is ok para can stop me from using my echo drop, my hold water, etc, but if it does, should it take the item away? or should i just suffer a timer penalty until i can try again. Yes we know that the game has always taken the item so people need to stop using that argument. The point is people are saying in a sense it doesn't really make sense in the terms of what paralyze does. Paralyze stops you from doing something. When you are paralyzed you cant perform an action, so really if you are paralyzed and try to use an item not only does it have the chance to stop you from peforming the action of using an item but now it also takes that item away. Yes its a game and blah blah blah. But lets apply the RL card here (yes i'm going there). I suffer a stroke and for a brief amount of time my left arm is paralyzed but x amount of time later i can move it again. The paralyzation from the stroke didn't take my arm away, it just stopped me from being able to use it for x amount of time.

    Just because the game has always taken items when para procs on use doesn't mean it can't be changed. SE changes things in the game all the time. Remember the ranger nerf, remember when you could mediatate as /sam and get 100 tp and then they lowered it to 60 TP. Stuff can be changed.
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  9. #59
    Player Miera's Avatar
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    This happened to an LS mate when we ran and did a Shimryu fight. we proced and was ready for the kill and as he clicked to brew Shinryu right as his TP move readied he got para'd and he lost his brew and we all died a horrible death.
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

  10. #60
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    how do you feel about Paralyze eating 2 hr? or SCH Stratagems?
    It simply iullstrates one of the weaknesses of SCH. Some people call them broken, I think things like this contribute to balancing it.
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