The last, great hope..

[Vicious]

Let's be clear, the problem isn't PLD's lack of abilities, damage mitigation, spells, etc.; the problem is a dearth of content challenging enough to warrant using a PLD in the first place.

Most people realize this, that's why you don't see a whole lot of PLD bitch threads.

[Eurell]

Let's be clear, the problem isn't PLD's lack of abilities, damage mitigation, spells, etc.; the problem is a dearth of content challenging enough to warrant using a PLD in the first place.

Most people realize this, that's why you don't see a whole lot of PLD bitch threads.

I saw about 8 on the front page of the PLD subforums.

As a PLD main (hell, PLD only for years and years), of course there is a problem with PLD. But there seems to be a problem with every job (except a select few) if you look at all the QQ on these boards. Can we please at least keep our bitching to our subforums?

[Insaniac]

Not every job is perfect for every event (except whm). PLD has -> ALWAYS <- been excluded from anything that didn't require their survivability (see Nyzul isle, salvage, exp) but try doing T3-4 VW without a PLD. The job is working as intended.

The only thing I would complain about is that you need the highest end gear to really function. This can be said of almost every tank and DD job. Without one of those precious shineys in your offhand you will probably be told to come as a different job.

I would be rallying for an easier to obtain high end shield for PLDs who don't want to fight 15 other duos trying to spawn chione or solo dynamis every day for 6 months straight. My PLD is 100% retired with near perfect gear not counting my shield and sword because my LS has Ochain and Aegis PLDs to spare. IMO.. lessen the gap between the PLD4LYFEs and the casual meat shields and the job is fine.

[Deadvinta]

I tried to like, but it took me to the forum top. Guess SE doesn't want me to.

[Rearden]

PLD is fine...if you have Ochain/Aegis.

I have no problem with SE making PLD without stronger as long as they make Ochain/Aegis stronger as well to accommodate the work put into those 2 items.

[Darkwizardzin]

Troll much?

Giving opinions is trolling? By your logic your trolling everyone just by creating this thread.

Also you want on topic discussion? Fine: Pld is fine where it is.

* It's wanted for events
* It doesn't have a big problem doing what it does best in the events it's wanted ins
* There are many other jobs that ARE having an issue being wanted for any event (like SCH for example) pld does not have that issue.

Your thread title and your tone in general make it seem like pld Is a forgotten child that SE left in the dirt. That is what I don't agree with. Yes pld still has problems but this isn't the "abyssea only" days anymore so stop acting like it is.

[SpankWustler]

Paladin performs phenomenally within it's niche of tanking very difficult monsters. Paladin has super-excellent methods of mitigating damage that far surpass anything available to any other job.

It's also true that such difficult monsters aren't that common, and those methods are "obtain an Ochain" and "obtain an Aegis".

I think if SE finally caves into the sanity of it's player base and makes Colorless Souls more obtainable, it will be easier for folks to perform at near-ideal levels on Paladin. I think that more difficult monsters being added over time will provide people with more opportunities to play Paladin under ideal conditions. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty confident in these things.

I don't see what adding a glut of spells and abilities to Paladin would do compared to universal changes such as the two I mentioned.

Also, most spells and abilities that would be socks-rocking for a normal Paladin would either be overwhelmingly powerful or totally pointless for an Ochain operator.

[detlef]

As others have mentioned, the issue is not so much with PLD itself as it with content challenging enough to warrant one. PLD is ideal for Voidwatch due to its survivability and ability to hold hate without necessarily killing the mob.

If you find yourself not using PLD, it's probably because you're opting for easy content. And if you are doing that then why not bring a WAR or MNK and kill faster?

[InfiniteKarma]

Whenever Malamasala posts all that really comes of it is

"Well, someone else has more problems than you"

When that has nothing to do with anything

Things are geting spicey in this topic.

[AldielQuetz]

Trolling about being called out as a troll....

/slowclap

This thread is about supporting PLD and discussing it's lack of attention when it's threads are on top of the charts.

We deserve to get a spell if everyone else does, don't we?

We deserve better shield that aren't relics or empyreans, don't we?

It seems the Wiz's logic is that anything that adds to PLD takes away from other jobs, and that's not the case nor am I asking for everyone else's jobs to be nerfed... I am simply asking for equal improvements across the board.