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  1. #101
    Player Finuve's Avatar
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    Lakshmi
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    DRK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    Drg = still good out/in
    Sam = omg were not gods for once
    Dnc= solo king learn to play it save lives * who really wants to dd cure bitch*
    Thf = just got a buff headed in the right direction
    Rdm = fine unless your of the melee crowd * cure 5 would be nice*
    Sch = See rdm
    Pup = L O L *seriously though the puppet can be a beast blm and they do need AI fixed*
    DRG has the same issues they have always had, wyvern dies too easy, WSs are too weak (see empyrean WS being identical to queitus, except DRG cant WS as fast as a DRK)

    RDM doesnt really have its place anymore, the dedicated jobs are just far too good at what they do to have a use for RDM anywhere, RDM needs both sides buffed, just not too far that they outweigh the dedicated jobs,
    THF is getting lucky with Bully,
    DNC solos amazingly, though I mainly use the job to tank, but it needs its utility back, at 75 I buffed DDd and cured for parties and did everything quite well, at 90 all we get to do is Solo or tank or DD surprisingly well
    SAM is just bad in abyssea, outside, when these things are back to normalcy they will once again be sitting up top or just below WAR
    SCH same as my RDM comments
    PUP is wholly underrated in abyss, outside, AI kills them
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  2. #102
    Player Finuve's Avatar
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    DRK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    you realize then you would be arguing that war is to OP'd and everyone only takes wars to events since all the other DD's are midgrade generic goo
    I wouldnt, I accept that WAR is a DD job with no other use, DRK in events can stun, dispel at 95, however these benefits should make up for the difference in DD capability, which atm is far from the case because the DD gap is so large
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  3. #103
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    If you're worried about DoT then why complain about the weapon you have/your ability to do damage with it? It should balance out considering Caladbolg DRK is pretty beast.

    On that note, not every event is for every job. The one good thing SE has done is to NOT balance anything in this game because x/y/z isn't good in abyssea. Abyssea is not FFXI, Abyssea is a place to farm empyrean weapons and get XP.

    DRK is actually really good in VW, and has a lot of proc'ing ability both with Magic and with its wide variety of WS, not discounting it has stun.

    DRK was always good for HNM fights because it could put up WS (and do light/dark SC's) and back off, and of course, stun.

    A well geared DRK could perform well in a merit party at the right camp given the party itself didnt suck (common).

    Is DRK good in Limbus/Salvage/Nyzul/Abyssea/Einherjar? Not necessarily, but you can sure as hell still complete any of those events while playing DRK but that is a conscious choice you are making. To buff DRK enough to compete in those events against other jobs would be to make DRK the #1 everything which isn't going to happen. Hell, at 75 cap a good DRK could solo tank almost everything in the game because they get almost identical PDT/MDT sets to PLD.
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  4. #104
    Player Rearden's Avatar
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    except DRG cant WS as fast as a DRK
    wut. That's just flat out wrong.

    And SAM is already far ahead of WAR outside Abys, just like always.
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  5. #105
    Player Finuve's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    wut. That's just flat out wrong.

    And SAM is already far ahead of WAR outside Abys, just like always.
    no its true, delay on polearms is not ideal, and jumps can only go so far, which is not nearly as far as desperate blows and easy 5 hits with most scythes

    granted in comparison to a great sword DRK, they may be slower than a DRG
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  6. #106
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    Dirtyfinger
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    no its true, delay on polearms is not ideal, and jumps can only go so far, which is not nearly as far as desperate blows and easy 5 hits with most scythes

    granted in comparison to a great sword DRK, they may be slower than a DRG

    DRG is a TP whore. Spirit and Soul jumps added a ton of damage and TP. One of its best weapons is OAT PA and its easy to get. Their gear options for capped haste are superior to DRK. (non Apoc) And they have Drakesbane which is one of the best WS in the game.

    Their down fall comes from party mechanics and the limited procs they can do.


    For the Hundred Fist posters, if the MNK has its 2hr up, the Ghorn BRD should be singing Minuets not marches.
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    Arma up next!

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscoffey View Post
    Any of the jobs that keep coming in here to tell me over and over again how great dark is should parse against some of us instead of talking jibberish. Quit bandwagon riding the jobs that SE keeps updating with great updates and talking down on us. We got LR and you are right it's a great update but you fail to realize melee have this thing called "good" critical WS that far exceed anything LR has done for us lately. You can also cap your haste which has pushed your power even higher to the point we are at a great loss.

    Another point to take into account is with regular LS buffs you are capped attack(majority of mobs) and capped haste which makes dark LR do very little other than "low man" something a little easier. Instead of ridiculing someone try walking a mile in their shoes about our shitty updates the past few years. I bet 3/4 of you still aren't even sure how critical tiers work seeing as how lazy people are to research the matter thus failing on your weaponskill potential outside abyssea. I mean seriously easy mode has ruined the majority of you that come here.
    My point is that DRK only needs 1 thing. A crit WS to use in abyssea. You have nothing else to complain about. Pretty much every job in this game has lemon JAs and it seems like you guys want every JA you have to be perfect. It's not gonna happen. Instead of posting 37 new QQ threads about various problems maybe you should pool your efforts into asking for a crit scythe WS. Starting a new thread to complain about your 2hr when it compliments SE perfectly seems counter productive.
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  8. #108
    Player Rearden's Avatar
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    I'm waiting for boy-genius to argue with Taint, personally.
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    You're not asking for a crit scythe WS, what you're really asking for is a new crit scythe Ws.
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  10. #110
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    Urteil
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    Phoenix
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    DRK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    My point is that DRK only needs 1 thing. A crit WS to use in abyssea. You have nothing else to complain about. Pretty much every job in this game has lemon JAs and it seems like you guys want every JA you have to be perfect. It's not gonna happen. Instead of posting 37 new QQ threads about various problems maybe you should pool your efforts into asking for a crit scythe WS. Starting a new thread to complain about your 2hr when it compliments SE perfectly seems counter productive.

    TRANSLATION: HI, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH THE JOB, I'M PLAYING A WARRIOR WITH BLACK ARMOR RIGHT?
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