Blood Weapon: It's really bad.

[Byrth]

I'd argue it's often not very practical to use BW to gain HP at all, which seems to be something the OP totally misses. Blood Weapon's main use is to maintain Soul Eater without decay.

What DRKs should really agitate for is a mini-2Hr JA similar to BRD, BLM, RDM, SAM, etc. If they gave you a JA that let you keep 50% Blood weapon potency for 1 of every 10 minutes, you'd be totally set and correct that Blood Weapon is mostly useless. As it is, it has huge zerg applications against anything that doesn't resist SE (which is a bullshit mechanic).

[Finuve]

I'd argue it's often not very practical to use BW to gain HP at all, which seems to be something the OP totally misses. Blood Weapon's main use is to maintain Soul Eater without decay.

What DRKs should really agitate for is a mini-2Hr JA similar to BRD, BLM, RDM, SAM, etc. If they gave you a JA that let you keep 50% Blood weapon potency for 1 of every 10 minutes, you'd be totally set and correct that Blood Weapon is mostly useless. As it is, it has huge zerg applications against anything that doesn't resist SE (which is a bullshit mechanic).

when anything that matters is resistant to souleater now anyway, blood weapon is still useless

honestly the kclub zerging crutch killed potential updates for DRK to especially souleater and blood weapon, now that it has been removed we've seen souleater get an update to make it useful for general purposes, now we need a 2hr that actually has uses

its always been painful having a two hour that is rendered 100% useless if ur fighting 1 of many undead type mobs

[Byrth]

They should:
1) Remove the current "building-resistance" from monsters
2) Add a generic magic "resist" rate to Souleater, with a large enough MAcc bonus that it will only begin to matter against very high level mobs.
3) Remove the whole "you can't Blood Weapon undead monsters" thing, because it has always been dumb.
4) Let Blood Weapon stack with Haste Samba.

The "problem" with (or strength of) SE/BW was how it totally doesn't scale based on monster level. Instead of introducing some kind of proper resist scheme, they just arbitrarily made some NMs build resistance to it. I'd rather see a normal magical resist rate (that we can affect through things like Dark Threnody and Stutter Step) with a significant MAcc bonus and none of the arbitrary resistances.

[Rafien]

Shouldn't a two-hour have a major change to the outcome of the battle? Tell me when was the last time a NIN used their two hour ability and did zero damage to the mob? Or WHM casted her two ability and failed to cure anyone?

Try popping a two-hr vs on an undead mob and tell me what happens.. Nothing! This is a failed two-hr ability and always has been a failed two-hr. With the new level caps, this ability is basically useless even at 15 minutes recast.

[NeverGonnaGiveYouUp]

The amount of dumb in this thread makes my head hurt. If Blood Weapon isn't helping you, maybe you should pick a better time to use it, not when you're the only person left at 50% HP against a mob that double attacks for 700 (against a loldrk). At that point you SHOULD be dead.

Drk sucks, but your 2hr isn't the problem.

[Alhanelem]

It just needs to last longer and also give an accuracy and maybe damage boost.

I remember using it when I first started DRK, at like level 10 when i aggroed some beastmen or something, thinking it would save me. I swung like 4 times in 30 seconds and... missed every time. great 2-hour.

[Quetzacoatl]

It exists because blood weapon is horrible? o_O

Eagle eye shot is also complete trash and is basically a barrage(5 min cd <_<) on a 2 hour timer...

Mijin is pretty bad too, it's at least useful but it does not warrant being a 2 hour. Perfect dodge is pretty crap too but at least has SOME uses. 2 hour abilities should be like hundred fists, invincible, benediction, chainspell, etc. "OH SHIT" buttons, extremely powerful abilities.

Trance is also incredible, dunno what you're talking about, -6 sec recast on waltz' + free TP cost, unlimited cures with a much lower recast and you can spam weaponskills while also cure spamming yourself/others. Not to even mention the free cost of steps and free samba costs. It's exactly what a 2 hour is supposed to be.

No, Hundred Fists sucks, lol.

[Myrrh]

What about Astral Flow or Eagle Eye Shot. Now those are some crappy 2hrs.

[Ank]

I agree that bloodweapon(and ees,pd) sucks but

I'm pretty sure over the course of two hours you could recover more HP from Drain Samba than blood weapon.

That's silly.

Anyways, I still don't think two hour updates are job fixes but ask for what you want I guess.

[Taint2]

No, Hundred Fists sucks, lol.

Completely beg to differ, esp with lowman stuff, even with a full pty it was nice. (think salvage bosses)

Nin 2hr is used a lot, unlucky death, 2hr, raise, proceed.

EES is pretty terrible.

AF is used all the time and is a pretty awesome 2hr.