MNK/WAR tank I'm confused Please Assist

[Monchat]

To be fair, killing on the scale of Apademak Horns, it is significantly more time-efficient to farm cruor, farm pops, and brew 7-8 at a time with Sanguine Blade or Wildfire.

Otherwise though, y'all are just responding to Pchan. Y u do this?

So you agree with pchan, but you make an attack to him because its not ok to agree with him. Flash news: everyone already figured out chain brews saves a lot of time, excepts people who think breing X NM is a waste of a brew, as if cruor was a rare currency.

If anyone tells me wasting brew to get 75 dragua scales is stupid, ill tell them it only took me 12 hours to get 75 scales (combined in 2 farming sessions). Some people think they are god because they kill all their 50 dragua the right way!! Oh wait, they used atmas and cruor buffs, lol. WHo cares about those NMs? they are piss easy. Dragua 10min duo/trio at most. So Im saving like 50x10mn+KI farming time, thats why brews are good.

This reminds me of Fishing back in the days. There were fishers who thought only real fishermen got their 10000 moat carp ( or whatever the number is) on their own. People who got them off the AH were level 100 before the guy who fished his carps was lv 50 lol.

[Alderin]

Save VW to the PLD's.

Sure T1-T3 can be done on a MNK. Have done quite a few even as /SAM for half the fight (due to a non-ochain PLD dying). However as mentioned, if you want a stress-free VW run - let the PLD's tank.

Why /SAM? People have heard of meditate & dusty wings right? General consensus is to use a COR as DD's TP source while you wait for hints on procs. Half of the time you are sitting there with 300% TP. Sekkanoki > combo > shoulder tackle > dusty wing > backhand blow. That's 3x procs covered in a few seconds. Not to mention Meditate.

As for the whole /war vs /nin debate. Outside abyssea > just use NIN or PLD. Can be done on MNK but I would hardly call it "ideal".

Aside from that - people have not mentioned the massive enmity reduction you get from going /nin due to the lack of Provoke & DPS. When you have a BLM standing there trying to proc or manaburn something to death - you need that extra means of turning the mobs head rather then Utsusemi etc.

As for the various people that obviously doesn't know what a tank is :

A tank is a player that has pulled hate and is being wacked on by the mob. Hell, I have seen a WHM tank & hold turul for a solid amount of time while the rest of the PT finally got to him after roaming the rest of the zone.

[Greatguardian]

So you agree with pchan, but you make an attack to him because its not ok to agree with him. Flash news: everyone already figured out chain brews saves a lot of time, excepts people who think breing X NM is a waste of a brew, as if cruor was a rare currency.

If anyone tells me wasting brew to get 75 dragua scales is stupid, ill tell them it only took me 12 hours to get 75 scales (combined in 2 farming sessions). Some people think they are god because they kill all their 50 dragua the right way!! Oh wait, they used atmas and cruor buffs, lol. WHo cares about those NMs? they are piss easy. Dragua 10min duo/trio at most. So Im saving like 50x10mn+KI farming time, thats why brews are good.

This reminds me of Fishing back in the days. There were fishers who thought only real fishermen got their 10000 moat carp ( or whatever the number is) on their own. People who got them off the AH were level 100 before the guy who fished his carps was lv 50 lol.

What? I'm not allowed to acknowledge when Pchan says something that is functionally correct while also maintaining that he is a ginormous, flaming troll that no one on any board should ever really reply to 95% of the time? Note: I said reply. I didn't say agree. Pchan gets things right on occasion, and when he's right he's right. That doesn't mean replying to him is a good idea the vast majority of the time.

I thought the lack of a double standard was supposed to be a good thing.

[MarkovChain]

Aside from that - people have not mentioned the massive enmity reduction you get from going /nin due to the lack of Provoke & DPS. .

Provoke is a mediocre enmity boost lol. Aslo why don't you mention the massive amount of enmity that you don't lose due to utsusemi ? There is only one thing that matters in VoidWatch : damage taken. Procing ? What. All the gear sucks, and if you ever find something worth getting that is not AHable, well try in low man until you finally proc it. It could change in the future but right now, as well as for level 95 gear according to dat miners, nothing is worth gathering 15 ppl on regular basis to maximize the ratio stones/items. Therefore it's better to farm your own item and then quit VW. The only decent piece I saw in the dats where a pdt back for monk (yeah ! .. err nvm who cares) and you have 50% chance that it it will be from woe. The other gear that doesn't suck are cure potency gear, that are a great boost to ..rdm, and we all know that rdm is a great healer (sarcasm).

[wish12oz]

Hey Pchan, can you explain your sig to me, I don't understand what exactly you are referring to when you say "learn to test"
Are you saying 70 WS is enough? Not enough? Are you saying there is no difference between 15 and 20? What are you saying?

[Rearden]

I think it's sad Pchan put his mule on a different SE account just so he could troll as Pchan and Monchat

[Vortex]

I think it's sad Pchan put his mule on a different SE account just so he could troll as Pchan and Monchat

i don't think you were supposed to blow his cover, now he won't have a pretend freind, y u do dat???

[Kam]

All the gear sucks, and if you ever find something worth getting that is not AHable, well try in low man until you finally proc it. It could change in the future but right now, as well as for level 95 gear according to dat miners, nothing is worth gathering 15 ppl on regular basis to maximize the ratio stones/items. Therefore it's better to farm your own item and then quit VW. The only decent piece I saw in the dats where a pdt back for monk (yeah ! .. err nvm who cares) and you have 50% chance that it it will be from woe. The other gear that doesn't suck are cure potency gear, that are a great boost to ..rdm, and we all know that rdm is a great healer (sarcasm).

You said Abyssea sucked and was trash, then I saw you come back and spend 24/7 in Abyssea with 4 mule accounts between you and your friend. While I agree that the VW drops available now aren't enough motivation to get into it, post patch you're flat out wrong. There are tons of pieces that are clearly VW drops and it will be laughable to see you unable to obtain them with your only one friend and 4 mules you need to kill anything (yes, I have watched you, you never do anything without MNK THF WHM RDM BLM BRD rofl).

[Monchat]

Not sure I understand your logic. Doing thing with 6 people is stupid yet VW is cool? Who farm seals/gems w/o BLM BRD and THF +whm+dd at least? Soloer who have no friends? You forgot to add NIN to the list for red procing.

[Gokku]

look dont argue with pchan its like feeding a troll just let him post his hypocrisy and move along.