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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Nothing is better than 9 acc if you need acc ; we are left to 5 store TP, 5 str 5 dex. 5 dex equal to 0.5 critical hitrate or 0.25% damage increase since it applie to melee only. 5 str is 2 attack and 1 fstr, so respectively 1% and 0.5% boost to melee dot, so 0.5% and 0.25% increase globally respectively. Store tp+5 for one handed DD is at best 5% increase to WS frequency so +2.5% damage up. So rajas is approximately = 3.5% damage increase girls.

    Oneiros ring is about 4% because it's 2% TA. Trophy items < maths.

    Notices how in the most favorable scenario (+1 fstr some +crit) rajas fails ? On mnk I highly doubt you don't cap fstr with level 90 vere, and seeing the piss poor amount of dex you get, you get zero crit either so yeah, the different is even bigger. Coombine this with the fact that proc system makes it so that you rarely ever tp as soon as you get TP...

    Oneiros Ring
    [Ring] All Races
    Accuracy+3 Latent Effect: "Triple Attack"+2%
    Lv. 88 WAR MNK THF BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG COR PUP DNC


    Latent effect: "Triple Attack+2%"

    Active when MP is greater than 100. Verification Needed

    Is there no limit to your stupidity? the latent is only active ABOVE 100 mp. let me guess, next you will say we should have an "MP set" for the ring. right? do you even think before you post? or do you just dig your hand in a bucket pull out a pile of crap and slap it on your KB and press "post reply"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Oneiros Ring
    [Ring] All Races
    Accuracy+3 Latent Effect: "Triple Attack"+2%
    Lv. 88 WAR MNK THF BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG COR PUP DNC


    Latent effect: "Triple Attack+2%"

    Active when MP is greater than 100. Verification Needed

    Is there no limit to your stupidity? the latent is only active ABOVE 100 mp. let me guess, next you will say we should have an "MP set" for the ring. right? do you even think before you post? or do you just dig your hand in a bucket pull out a pile of crap and slap it on your KB and press "post reply"
    Then I'd be one who would benefit on that since I put 12/12 merits on MP. Yet epona's ring is the next option for those that do not. Also Heed Ring for those who want ACC, EVA, and subtle blow.
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    Main Job: SMN95 <Hvergelmir 85 obtained 9/10/11>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Then I'd be one who would benefit on that since I put 12/12 merits on MP. Yet epona's ring is the next option for those that do not. Also Heed Ring for those who want ACC, EVA, and subtle blow.
    You are definatly full of surprises. Just when i think you have told me everything, you keep bringing me gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    You are definatly full of surprises. Just when i think you have told me everything, you keep bringing me gold.
    Why, cause I play mostly mage jobs with more use for MP for a long time now and only DNC as a melee job?

    Didn't choice of play style and equipment was treated like a religion or politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Why, cause I play mostly mage jobs with more use for MP for a long time now and only DNC as a melee job?

    Didn't choice of play style and equipment was treated like a religion or politics.
    Yea, that must be it. let's go with that n_n
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Yea, that must be it. let's go with that n_n
    Your patronizing is staggering. ~_~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Your patronizing is staggering. ~_~
    It's like trying teach somone how to bounce a ball, you tell them the proper way to do it is to push the ball down and let it come back up to your hand and push it back down, it's a simple, and understandable concept. but they keep kicking the ball foward, and they tell you "well it moves faster this way" this method clearly is not effective to anyone but them in thier mind, even tho everyone around this person is telling them that it's not the proper way to bounce it, and what you're doing is not effective in any way, but they keep kicking it..

    at that point you do 2 things, you let them keep kicking the ball and give up? or you smile at them and give them a lolipop saying "have fun"

    this is my way of telling you in a very subtle way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Then I'd be one who would benefit on that since I put 12/12 merits on MP. Yet epona's ring is the next option for those that do not. Also Heed Ring for those who want ACC, EVA, and subtle blow.
    Epona's Ring:
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    "Double Attack"+3% "Triple Attack"+3%
    LV 89 MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC

    If my war, drk, sam or drg could equip it, rest assured I would be using it. Together with Rajas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Is there no limit to your stupidity? the latent is only active ABOVE 100 mp. let me guess, next you will say we should have an "MP set" for the ring. right? do you even think before you post? or do you just dig your hand in a bucket pull out a pile of crap and slap it on your KB and press "post reply"
    Is this your way to admit that oneiros is better than rajas when you have 100 MP ? I'm not sure. Please enlighten us. Getting 100 MP is pretty easy, for instance MP merits (which half the players have). Now if you are the kind of person that doesn't want to push his char to the limit, why are you even arguing ? The question is not if rajas is the best ring for TPing out of the rings that vortex can afford ; the question is a general question about "is rajas the best". No it is not. Simple. It has shiny stats but tripple attack is also great.
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    open your mind. MP merit, what is it? the difference is too small for me to bother getting oneiros ring and MP merits, imo, but the fact is it is better period. Whether you're ready to get MP merit or not is up to you. Personally I wont bother. And yea as mentioned several times, for dualwielders, and MNKs, the 5 STP has taken a serious hit since the introduction of all the multi hit gears. Why? since people dont seem to graps game mechanics on here, ill explaine: high multi ht rate means that in one delay period, you can do up to 7 hits. Consequently you will very often have over tp ( tp not at 100 but 120, say0. This makes 5stp almost useless.

    Im not even talking about abyssea ( nobody cares about epeening your build in abyssea today). No you are not caped accuracy in many WV for example, therefore oneiros annulet> rajas. For 2handers its differrent.
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