REQUEST for DEVs: Paralyga, Slowga, Bindga, Blindga, Graviga - Can we get them?

[Mizuharu]

On topic: I don't see this as highly necessary due to the strategem Accession if you really need to AoE.

Obligatory: Accession - Extends the effect of your next healing or enhancing white magic spell to party members in range. (MP and recast doubled blah blah blah)

Manifestation - Extends the effect of your next enfeebling black magic spell to targets within range.

Since Accession is only healing/enhancing, and Manifestation states only black magic, it's impossible to AoE Paralyze Slow Dia II (Not dia I since Diaga) Silence and Addle (if, you know, people did rdm/sch). SCH can only do...

Drainga
Aspirga
Bioga I/II
Breakga
Sleepga I/II
Graviga
Blindga
Bindga
Poisonga/ II
Dispelga
Stunga
And, since it's a dark magic spell, Klimaformga.

Fun Fact: Also works with Absorb spells, stealing ~7 of whatever Absorb-Attribute spell you used from each target. But who actually sch/drks? >.> DRK/SCH maybe in CB but yeah... Oh, but Absorb-Acc won't work since SCH can't get it as SCH/DRK, General rule is if SCH doesn't get it from SCH/subjob, it's not AoE-able.

[Economizer]

SCH can only do...

Drainga
Aspirga
Bioga I/II
Breakga
Sleepga I/II
Graviga
Blindga
Bindga
Poisonga/ II
Dispelga
Stunga
And, since it's a dark magic spell, Klimaformga.

Fun Fact: Also works with Absorb spells, stealing ~7 of whatever Absorb-Attribute spell you used from each target. But who actually sch/drks? >.> DRK/SCH maybe in CB but yeah... Oh, but Absorb-Acc won't work since SCH can't get it as SCH/DRK, General rule is if SCH doesn't get it from SCH/subjob, it's not AoE-able.

You forgot the spikes spells. Ice Spikes, Blaze Spikes, and Shock Spikes can all be Manifested.

[Mizuharu]

You forgot the spikes spells. Ice Spikes, Blaze Spikes, and Shock Spikes can all be Manifested.

Can't* They're enhancing magic spells. Just like Warp. Unless they changed this recently...?

[Economizer]

Can't* They're enhancing magic spells. Just like Warp. Unless they changed this recently...?

I got to correct a handful of people on the Scholar subforums about this about a week or two back. Many of them didn't believe me either, but you can test it out in the game right now to confirm, even if you can only sub Scholar for Blaze Spikes and cast from that. It isn't recent either, it has been like this at least since Scholar got the spikes spells natively.

[Mizuharu]

Oh. snap. You can! Didn't think you could. Though it's a bit misleading with animation only showing on you when you cast it

[Yukichibi]

True dispelga (the one which dispel all buffs) would be awesome, because manifestation is basically launching a spell on each mob around the primary target.

[Korpg]

True dispelga (the one which dispel all buffs) would be awesome, because manifestation is basically launching a spell on each mob around the primary target.

Although we don't have a true Dispelga, we do have something that is close.

Lunar Roar.

[noodles355]

I notice most of the time someone says "We'd like this for a mage" Summoners come out and say "we can alredy do that". Seems like Smns have a lot of things they can do. It invites the question: why do you keep complaining and asking for stuff?

[Korpg]

I notice most of the time someone says "We'd like this for a mage" Summoners come out and say "we can alredy do that". Seems like Smns have a lot of things they can do. It invites the question: why do you keep complaining and asking for stuff?

Actually, the only thing I would like is a lower BP timer.

The ones who complain the loudest (Mala, Dallas) are the ones who don't know anything about SMN, most likely because they burned it to the current level and/or leveled it as a gimp WHM.

[Alhanelem]

I notice most of the time someone says "We'd like this for a mage" Summoners come out and say "we can alredy do that". Seems like Smns have a lot of things they can do. It invites the question: why do you keep complaining and asking for stuff?

Because for some reason, no one wants us inspite of the things we have. SMN is a slave to the bp timer and makes its stuff more difficult to use than it should be.