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  1. #61
    Player Krystal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayn View Post
    Ok, sorry but those recordings you are talking about that you didn't bother with ARE the proof all of us want. until you, the person who is claiming is correct, provide us with proof of it, its mere speculation. im sorry but thats how the world works, im not making ANY claims myself, thats why "I" dont have to go test anything for you, as you are suggesting, please... if i go saying that the world is flat and "squared" and I have nothing to prove it and start saying "well you should go do all the tests yourself so you can see im right", dont you think people will doubt me?
    We had threads like this all over the place on allakhazam. it is not new. brainstorming about what tactical processor does is something we used to do years ago over there.

    im sorry but until you come up with actual facts. dont go saying your word means anything over the interwebs.

    and sincerely i dont have anything against you, really i offer an apology if i said something out of place. but im guessing you can undearsteand where im coming from?

    this dead horse it's already decomposing.
    possibly but it's nerve racking everytime i look at wiki see nothing on the processor that's useful..>.<
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  2. #62
    Player Krystal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awezomeos View Post
    About the Tactical Processor.
    Im 100% sure it does what it says on it.
    Decreases decision-making time, but increases the tendency to Overload
    That also equals my experience.
    Example Eraser: If eraser is attached and a light maneuver is up it will be used immediatly after a negative spell is cast up on you. without TacticalProcessor it may take a few secs.
    Example WS: Automaton use Weaponskill as soon as it has =>100 TP
    Shielbash : TacticalProcessor is Very noticeable with it. With T.P. Shieldbash catch enemy actions better even if they only have short readying phase. Without even something long casting as Bomb toss may not be chatched due to the utomatons decision making time is to long.
    Also it works the same way with most other attachments.
    maybe i'm confusing recast timers with the time it takes to make an action? oi-vey..this attachment is annoying to figure out...
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  3. #63
    Player Ramenuzumaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Again JUST BECAUSE MP ISNT AN ISSUE DOESN'T MEAN IT IS STUPID FOR IT TO CAST CURE 6 IF YOU NEED ONLY 300 HP.

    How can you not see how stupid it is. What if they take away DAD. You will have a mp issue outside abyessa, anyone without MM will have a problem in abyessa.

    I guarantee you would start complaining about it being fixed then. So why not just fix it now. It is an A.I. issue.
    well considering we still have ADDA i'm not worried. the thing is there is no issue with MP so I dont see the problem. who cares if it doesnt cast a different cure, since its not impeding on our MP pool, or causing and stress. I normally only have one light maneuver up so I normally get cured when I have heck of a lot less than 300HP. Maybe if you used less Light maneuvers your automaton would cure later thus making it not "stupid" to cast a cure VI. I seriously don't see a problem with it. Especially since we do have ADDA. You dont need the "What if?" scenario since it's not going to happen. If they did that they would have to take away the DRG's dismiss functionality, then the DRG would complain, and then where would they be? I think the reason why the BLM changes what tier it casts is because it normally casts Tier V which cost a huge amount of MP thus needing to conserve the MP at lower mob HP; whereas the WHM casts one cure every so many cats, then casts low MP debuffs. there are MUCH more pressing matters to be concerned about other than the fact that our Automaton is casting a Cure VI that posses no threat to our MP pool, emnity, or anything for that matter other than the fact that it is a cure that is too large. Cry me a river, then build a bridge and get over it my friend. :3
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  4. #64
    Player chubrocka's Avatar
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    HUMMMMMM still waiting for a response from any of the SE peeps on this one??? Oh great info and suggestions. <<<< faithful PUP player
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramenuzumaki View Post
    well considering we still have ADDA i'm not worried. the thing is there is no issue with MP so I dont see the problem. who cares if it doesnt cast a different cure, since its not impeding on our MP pool, or causing and stress. I normally only have one light maneuver up so I normally get cured when I have heck of a lot less than 300HP. Maybe if you used less Light maneuvers your automaton would cure later thus making it not "stupid" to cast a cure VI. I seriously don't see a problem with it. Especially since we do have ADDA. You dont need the "What if?" scenario since it's not going to happen. If they did that they would have to take away the DRG's dismiss functionality, then the DRG would complain, and then where would they be? I think the reason why the BLM changes what tier it casts is because it normally casts Tier V which cost a huge amount of MP thus needing to conserve the MP at lower mob HP; whereas the WHM casts one cure every so many cats, then casts low MP debuffs. there are MUCH more pressing matters to be concerned about other than the fact that our Automaton is casting a Cure VI that posses no threat to our MP pool, emnity, or anything for that matter other than the fact that it is a cure that is too large. Cry me a river, then build a bridge and get over it my friend. :3
    My, my. You know that everytime you use Deus Ex or Deactivate and Reactivate it causes is bigger Overload problem? Honestly, I hate using DAD now a days because Overload can get you killed. I think SE has a problem with us using the DAD trick that's why the Overload is there from keeping us from having a infinate MP pool. I agree with the other guy though. Just because you don't feel you have a problem with it doesn't mean others do. C'mon now.
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  6. #66
    Player Lushipur's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubrocka View Post
    HUMMMMMM still waiting for a response from any of the SE peeps on this one??? Oh great info and suggestions. <<<< faithful PUP player
    i doubt we will see response to anything till the japanese situation will become less problematic -_-
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  7. #67
    Player xSylarx's Avatar
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    Archenemyx
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    you do know SE intention was Pup/Whm all mage gear can be worn by pup. they have supplied use with more then enough gear. equipment the atma i would use VV,SA,SD with Burattinaios ws can spam armor piercer and cannibal blade. So think its fare if we need anything it more attachment say priority curing 2 or attachment that force certain ws.
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    Those are nice some nice powers mind if i barrow them

  8. #68
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    Ok it is really hard to follow all that is here the first post is good there is alot going on about cure 6 and MP and tatical processor. First if you are on a non AOE mob Mp should relly never be an issue with pup. I cast cure 6 alot with Deactivate and Activate full mp pool. wish there was another job that could do it that fast. I mean I know convert but you still loose hp.... The Tattical Processor works best with the Scanner Flash Provoke and Stoneskin actions. It quickens the time for shield bash if it is up. For doing the -na if it did then Deactivate --> Activate --> Light man. Deploy. Pupetmaster is the only job i know you can Attack an NM without ever claiming it. Get 6 PUP's that know what they are doing and you can kill NM's in the Yellow.
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  9. #69
    Player Kayn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exzir View Post
    Ok it is really hard to follow all that is here the first post is good there is alot going on about cure 6 and MP and tatical processor. First if you are on a non AOE mob Mp should relly never be an issue with pup. I cast cure 6 alot with Deactivate and Activate full mp pool. wish there was another job that could do it that fast. I mean I know convert but you still loose hp.... The Tattical Processor works best with the Scanner Flash Provoke and Stoneskin actions. It quickens the time for shield bash if it is up. For doing the -na if it did then Deactivate --> Activate --> Light man. Deploy. Pupetmaster is the only job i know you can Attack an NM without ever claiming it. Get 6 PUP's that know what they are doing and you can kill NM's in the Yellow.
    even tho you kind of know what you are talking about, you lost my attention at the bolded part.
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    Player Dalcour's Avatar
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    When I was reading this (not all of it cause I'm lazy).. I wasn't sure if you mentioned a way for us to Modify our List of magic for our automaton's such as:
    Dia II: On (O)
    Bio II: Off (X)

    Something similar to that would help as well, or a Gambit type system similar to that in FF12.
    Mob HP>80%
    Automaton casts tier 3+ elemental spells.
    or
    Master HP<40%
    Automaton casts Cure VI,V,IV,III,II,I (Cure based on Automaton's current MP)

    Also, I read something with someone saying that we should get new Automatons... I completely agree with that. We should get some based on jobs in the game like a Samurai looking automaton or something with skills similar to a Samurai, that would be pretty cool.
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