If RDM and SCH can't have Cure 5, give us Afflatus Misery/Solace

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Yeah SE hurry up and give Rdm Cure V so they can move on to continuously whining about the next thing they can't do as well as another job (let's see you spent years crying about not being able to melee as well as a DD job, now it's crying over healing capacity, so I guess next is to cry that you can't nuke as well as Blm). As for Addle, you guys can keep it. I don't recall Whms ever asking for it, nor do we want it. Hell you can have Cure V (and VI for that matter) and Regen III; SE can give Whm a job trait that scales up allowing us to break the hard cap on cure potency and a few additional pieces of gear that have enhanced Regen potency on them.

The nuking aspect of RDM is perfect, it's inferior to BLM but NOT crazy inferior like it is curing wise.

No traits are necessary for WHM, the JA is amazing and the easy way they can reach 50% Potency, all they need to do is make Healing Magic actually relevant to cures.

[Zatias]

Right, that was a lot of supporting RDM did at 75 healing. They were the sole healer for about 1/2 the events in game, if not more.

Too bad the cap isn't 75 anymore, and I never had an event where RDM was designated main healer. They were always supporting the WHMs.

Unless you mean exping was the other half of "events". That I would understand.

[Economizer]

Is it weird that I think both of these statements are totally true and agree with both of them?

It is because the guy who I replied to totally ignored the point he made a few minutes before and acted like I was arguing against some idiot's post. If the argument he wanted to make from the start wasn't "Other mages should get Cure V because White Mage gets Cure VI" he shouldn't have said that from the start.

Personally, if other jobs get Cure V, I will demand to SE that they give those jobs Cure VI, because if they can convince SE to give them Cure V, maybe they can convince SE to fix Cure VI.

The only legit argument I've seen about anything White Mage completely and utterly has (aside from Cure V) that can't be replaced or almost matched by something else are the White Mage AF3 pants, at least in lowman situations. Stuff like cure potency (guess who is going to be able to cap it next update?), magic defense, debuff removal, light damage nukes, cureskin, one light based sleep spell, are all things other jobs get, or can come close enough to that it doesn't matter.

I think that if SE ultimately decided to give Cure V to other jobs, and that they wouldn't improve White Mage's cure abilities to compensate, White Mage should get a slew of other tools and improvements to fit other role. They should be incredibly extreme improvements to secondary roles for White Mage to fill. Afflatus Misery could use a buff anyways, so I think that would be a good place to start.

[Siiri]

Too bad the cap isn't 75 anymore, and I never had an event where RDM was designated main healer. They were always supporting the WHMs.

Unless you mean exping was the other half of "events". That I would understand.

Rdm healer at 75: Nyzul, experience, salvage, limbus farming, einherjar t1 and t2 wings, sky farming, dynamis

White mage healer- HNMs, ultima and omega, t3 einherjar and Odin, sky Gods

Your mileage may vary of course, this is just a quick list of how the various linkshells I was in worked it.

[Neisan_Quetz]

If I was in Dynamis on Rdm it was /blm, /drk, and I've heard of /nin and have the Rdm solo stones and have the blms crowd control (not that it was hard to main heal in dynamis, Rdm had other things to do).

Exp pts are not events, stop talking about exp parties. Whm/sch could still heal effectively in exp pts anyway.

[Zatias]

Rdm healer at 75: Nyzul, experience, salvage, limbus farming, einherjar t1 and t2 wings, sky farming, dynamis

White mage healer- HNMs, ultima and omega, t3 einherjar and Odin, sky Gods

Your mileage may vary of course, this is just a quick list of how the various linkshells I was in worked it.

This just shows that WHM has always been the superior healer in more difficult events. RDM was support/grinding type healing.

[Siiri]

In our dyna shells black mages handled the stones and crowd control, red mages main healed the DD parties. Experience was one thing I mentioned. You can leave it out and the list still shows red mage as sole healer in many events.

I don't for a second believe many salvage groups were using anything but red mage as main heal. Same with limbus, my first limbus they flat out refused to allow white mages in the zone. Red mage was just too efficient.

[SpankWustler]

Personally, if other jobs get Cure V, I will demand to SE that they give those jobs Cure VI

The Red Mages and Scholars of Vana'diel would cast Cure VI for the first time, then they would know the pain of losing a fourth of their Magic Points for a disappointing cure and you would know revenge. The wheel of fate rolls over us all.

[Ank]

Exp/merit was the only thing I've ever done in which whm wasn't preferred.

Could rdm handle some of those things? Perhaps, but isn't that an argument for buffing rdm curing for the new levels?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Whm/Sch could have effectively done Nyzul and Dynamis last I checked, so knocking those two off leaves limbus, salvage, einherjar, and sky farming on your list.