Sooo SE actually wants to know the numbers of PS2 users eh?

[Aequis]

I think a lot of people are forgetting the game is still very limited, with or without PS2/3 versions. It still has a capped framerate, it still has issues with the coding that slow it down in certain situations, it's still limited by outdated graphics and no matter how fast your internet connection is, it doesn't affect how smoothly the game runs. They won't re-write the game engine to work better if it ends up being PC-only.

From reading these posts, it sounds as if you're expecting a fantastic new version to suddenly appear if they stop PS2/3 support. With their reduced staff, I honestly can't see this happening any time soon. They still have the mystical PS3 version of FFXIV to produce at some point in time, which is even more unlikely to happen and there's four other Final Fantasy games in development (FFXIII-2, FFXIII: Versus, FFXIV and the purported PS Vita FFXI).

It's difficult to judge. We should just wait and see what happens.

[Leonlionheart]

Like I've said over and over, the only thing dropping PS2 will affect is size related issues.

Meaning we can only get more, not necessarily better quality things. Though the details will be better quality since they don't have to dumb everything down for PS2.

[Tsuneo]

Getting more than 80 inventory spaces is reason enough to drop PS2.

[Arcon]

Getting more than 80 inventory spaces is reason enough to drop PS2.

It's also enough reason to drop 360, Vita and Japan.

[zanlabik]

Getting more than 80 inventory spaces is reason enough to drop PS2.

Dropping the PS2 will not affect storage... if 80 truly is the max a PS2 can hold, then it would stand to reason we could have 80 types of storage, each holding 80 items.

As far as them crack-jobs thinking the PS2 is holding back development and would see the console dropped for the better of the game, I ask what if they decide that a specific region was holding back the development of FFXI. Would you prefer to see that you can no longer play the game solely to keep it alive for others to enjoy?

Viva la PS2!!!!

[Camiie]

From reading these posts, it sounds as if you're expecting a fantastic new version to suddenly appear if they stop PS2/3 support.

People really do seem to believe that a whole new game client will be produced once the PS2 is no longer supported, when the FFXI crew is probably working with less resources than it ever has.

What's funny is, I've been on the forums of that famous US based MMO with 11-12 million subscribers, and even their community reps complain about a lack of resources/manpower when the players ask for certain things. AND, it's a completely PC based game, not affected in any way by a console created at the turn of the century. Technically they could make wholesale changes to the game client much easier than SE could, I would imagine.

Even when you're only dealing with PCs, you have to make sure that you don't push the requirements too far past what you initially set, or you start alienating your users with older PCs.

Now, think about SE. They don't have 11-12 million people pouring money into their game. It's just a small part of their overall operations. It's an old game, with a largely negative reputation among the general gaming community. How much do we really think they're going to sink into a new game client? What's their distribution model going to be like? What will the timetable be for people to buy and upgrade?

[Leonlionheart]

Like I've said over and over, the only thing dropping PS2 will affect is size related issues.

Meaning we can only get more, not necessarily better quality things. Though the details will be better quality since they don't have to dumb everything down for PS2.

guys guys guys guys guys learn to read.

No one thinks we're getting a new client, what the hell?

We just want new zones. Possibility at new expansions. New gear skins. Stop rehashing trash like in ToM. Much more development space.

Let's be perfectly honest, SE cares about money. Why do you think this survey is coming out?

[SIZE="7"]BECAUSE PS2 NO LONGER BRINGS IN THE REVENUE TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING IT WITH NEW UPDATES[/SIZE]

The fact of the matter is, if they drop it, 90% of the community won't care, 90% of PS2 players will move to PC, and SE has much larger working space for development of the game.

[Kimara]

Dropping the PS2 will not affect storage... if 80 truly is the max a PS2 can hold, then it would stand to reason we could have 80 types of storage, each holding 80 items.

As far as them crack-jobs thinking the PS2 is holding back development and would see the console dropped for the better of the game, I ask what if they decide that a specific region was holding back the development of FFXI. Would you prefer to see that you can no longer play the game solely to keep it alive for others to enjoy?

Viva la PS2!!!!

I do hope they give us more storage though, even with all the porter moogles, sachel and sack I still never seem to have quite enough space. I don't think PS2 is the reason why it's 80 though. I am all for dropping the PS2 if it means upgrades for anything really. Not that I don't love the PS2 and I think that it was fine for Xi for a long while. I was always on PC but Saith played on PS2 for a long time. But if PS2 is holding back the game in any way from progressing whether it be inventory space, graphics, expansions. I want them to drop it. Like I've said before most people that own or play on PS2 have the newer systems anyway, with exceptions of course.

[Economizer]

From reading these posts, it sounds as if you're expecting a fantastic new version to suddenly appear if they stop PS2/3 support.

More expansion packs is the primary thing I think would happen, along side from minor adjustments that would not be possible on the PS2, such as expanded Macros (like linking macros to each other).

[Eric]

None of the new FFXI collections have appeared for PS2. Sure, the Abyssea collection wasn't made for Xbox 360, but it is still way easier to get game disks for Xbox than it is for PS2. People have to go extremely out of their way if they want to start playing the game on PS2.

The link for buying the PS2 version on the official PlayOnline website doesn't even work anymore. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/env...html?pageID=ps

I wholeheartedly agree with Leonlionheart. The PS2 is no longer bringing in new players, and it's due to the reasons I just stated. The PS2 population is only dwindling, and there's no stopping it.