Sooo SE actually wants to know the numbers of PS2 users eh?

[Tsuneo]

I don't see the big deal with ps2 players not wanting to switch. It's not like you can use a PS2 controller on a pc, so basically it would feel the same except you are running it on a better machine.

[Crinan]

Ok so i read this thread and i just don't understand why people are so insistent on saving the PS2. The whole thing about your computer slowing down or lagging or crashing is irrational. I grabbed my PC Vana'diel collection to look at the system requirements, and i'm trying to understand where this arguement comes in.

Operating System: Windows 2000/XP/VISTA
CPU: Pentium III 800Mhz or faster.
Memory: 128 MB RAM
Graphics Card: GeForce series with 32 MB or RADEON 9000 series
Hard Drive space: 9.5 GB free hard disk space
Internet Connection: 56k or faster

I'm not saying you have to run out and buy a new computer, but i'm pretty sure what you have now will run it just fine with minimal side effects. If you play on PS2 and enjoy playing XI you will move to another platform. If not.....

[Babekeke]

Ok so i read this thread and i just don't understand why people are so insistent on saving the PS2. The whole thing about your computer slowing down or lagging or crashing is irrational. I grabbed my PC Vana'diel collection to look at the system requirements, and i'm trying to understand where this arguement comes in.

Operating System: Windows 2000/XP/VISTA
CPU: Pentium III 800Mhz or faster.
Memory: 128 MB RAM
Graphics Card: GeForce series with 32 MB or RADEON 9000 series
Hard Drive space: 9.5 GB free hard disk space
Internet Connection: 56k or faster

I'm not saying you have to run out and buy a new computer, but i'm pretty sure what you have now will run it just fine with minimal side effects. If you play on PS2 and enjoy playing XI you will move to another platform. If not.....

I played on my wife's laptop for a while when my PC broke. It only had onboard graphics, yet it was still fine to play all aspects of the game aside from besieged. I find that the internet connection that you're using hinders you far more than the machine in this day and age. I wish I lived in a fibre-optic area

[Economizer]

Operating System: Windows 2000/XP/VISTA

I can't say for certain, because I haven't tried it again in a while, but you can install FFXI on Windows 98, at least you could before WotG (and I see no reason why you couldn't with WotG).

As long as you have 512MB of RAM and a basic graphics card, this game will run quite fast too, but I'd hope people have a hard drive with at least 40GB of space for future expansions.

Edit: Also, the connection speed of this game is capped at 56k for everyone last I checked. Better connections only help downloading updates and latency, although these advantages are pretty major.

[Arcon]

This is the nature of all good modern games.
1- They're online
2 - they involve other people, (real people)
3 - they are constantly expanded upon and refreshed

While I agree with you sentiment, this grinds my shit. I wouldn't play any game other than XI that meets either of the criteria (maybe the last through DLC/patches, not changing the game like XI). This applies only to MMOGs, and MMOGs suck, I will never play one again. The vast majority of high quality games are static, single-player, offline games and it's good that they are.

lawl I want a laptop for 100 bucks I'm still waiting to hear where someone has claimed they could get one. Cuz that's cheaper then what my cell phone cost me~, that's about the price of my cellphone's monthly plan >_>.

I just entered "cheap computers" in google. These are the first three hits:
http://www.geeks.com/products.asp?cat=SYS
http://www.electrocomputerwarehouse.com/
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...022-_-CatId_17

It starts at $41, most are in the ~$100 price range, laptops usually a bit higher. If you look for more than half a minute, you might find it even cheaper. And all of them run FFXI with full settings, and a lot better than the PS2 could ever dream to.

Its not that cheap to buy a pc, and some ppl just dont like gaming on their pc, or already have a pc but just "can't" game on it~ Who knows~? but I'm pretty sure a PC player wouldn't know why someone plays on ps2.

I do, stop accusing everyone with groundless assumptions. I love playing on consoles and I always prefer them to the PC, if I get a chance. However, would I play Metal Gear Solid 3 on the NES? No, because it would be an entirely different game and couldn't live up to the expectations due to the limitations of the system.

It's kinda related to what Cursed said up there. The game is ever changing. And one console can only hold so much. PCs on the other hand, are always upgradeable. For this kind of game, the game that endured an entire decade, PC is simply the only logical platform to go with.

[FrankReynolds]

The vast majority of high quality games are static, single-player, offline games and it's good that they are.

I agreed with every single thing you said except this. A lot of the biggest titles meet these criteria. Halo, COD, Bioshock... etc. are all insanely popular and depend almost entirely on:

1- They're online
2 - they involve other people, (real people)
3 - they are constantly expanded upon and refreshed

although, to be fair... they typically just add new maps with no actual content to accompany it. And honestly... I'm not sure I would play another MMORPG again either. Although, if they fully revamped and upgraded this one I might buy it.

[Arcon]

I agreed with every single thing you said except this. A lot of the biggest titles meet these criteria. Halo, COD, Bioshock... etc. are all insanely popular and depend almost entirely on:

1- They're online
2 - they involve other people, (real people)
3 - they are constantly expanded upon and refreshed

Not to derail this further, and maybe I was a bit quick to judge this, but I still believe this applies almost exclusively to MMORPGs or shooters. Not sure how Bioshock involves other people, or do you mean an online mode? I admit, I never played it (for shame!), but I didn't know it was famous for that, at least I've never heard of it. Going by numbers, you could also call sports games high quality, but I was more focusing on the actual quality than the number of sales. If you go by ratings instead of sales, for example, the ranking shifts to Half-Life, Portal, MGS series, etc. (and possibly Deus Ex 3, not played it yet... I have high hopes, better not disappoint me like you did in recent years, SE).

Anyway, just thought the opinion was a bit judgmental, but I guess it's about what people prefer. Anyway, back to PS2 bashing. lol80inv

[Skyver]

(and possibly Deus Ex 3, not played it yet... I have high hopes, better not disappoint me like you did in recent years, SE).

I'd like to point out at this moment that SE had nothing to do with Deus Ex 3's development.

[Retiti]

i play on the ps3, but i like my tv much more than my little lap top screen. and no, i dont really want wires running across my living room from my laptop to my tv. i have cats, and they like to chew on wires. evil beings.
that said, if they got rid of it and i was forced to play on my laptop, if i got a free copy for it, and someone to come show me how to make the damn ps3 controller WORK on my laptop, id happily do it! if i had to spend more hair pulling hours trying to get the controller to work myself, and had to break down and buy yet another copy of the game that i already have, id do it, though i would pout about it for oh... 5 minutes.

[Runespider]

Ultimately all the arguing in the world won't change the fact that this whole issue is a JP one, the ps2 playerbase is so small it's a non-issue everywhere else. As I said earlier they lost more players from other decisions this year.

If the JP PS2 playerbase is still large then that will be the deciding factor, would be nice if anyone could read JP and could see what kind of topics are going on over on the jp forums.

-tinfoil hat-
Unless they are really trying to get all the ps2 players to upgrade to a ps3 by releasing a proper version of FFXI for it with an expansion, then hoping they are all in a position to buy FFXIV!
-tinfoil hat-