Sooo SE actually wants to know the numbers of PS2 users eh?

[Kyohyi]

Hi everyone,

Just to provide a different perspective, I regularly play FFXI on my PS3, since that's my primary gaming system. However - this means that I'm playing the PS2 version, since there is no native PS3 FFXI client. (I have one of the 60 gig North American launch PS3 consoles with the PS2 in hardware).


This means that, yes, I do have most (if not all) of the PS2 discs and expansion packs. I had to use the PS2 discs - including the disc that came with the PS2 hard drive - to install FFXI on the PS3.

There are no significant issues with the PS3 hardware emulation of FFXI - that I've discovered anyway. For the most part, it works just like the PS2 client but with a very slight upscale/smoothing and with PS3 specific features (i.e. wireless support, wireless controllers, etc.) enabled.

From time to time, I do fire up FFXI on my old PS2 as well. I try to keep that current in case my PS3 dies - those launch consoles are kind of fragile now.

And - before you ask - I also play on the PC and the 360 from time to time. But - it's the PS3 (PS2) version I keep going back to.

If SquareEnix were to release a native PS3 version, then I'd be happy with dropping PS2 support, I guess. However - they've indicated in interviews that they don't plan on doing this. (Square Enix Looking Into Final Fantasy XI Port For PlayStation Vita, But Not PS3)

That's another thing about this survey - I wonder if this has any bearing on the PlayStation Vita port? Like - possibly migrating the PS2/PS3 users to the Vita or something?

-kyo >^_^<

[Kagato]

Considering FFXI can run at max settings at a smooth framerate on any ordinary store-bought PC or laptop these days for the past several years, I'd say moving to the PC version is more than possible. In fact, I'd say it's impossible NOT to be able to do so.

[xiozen]

It's dirt-cheap to upgrade from a PS2 to any other platform this game supports. If PS2 limitations are really holding the game back from continuing, then yes, something needs to be done. I play on 360, and if I found out that new content came to a halt because of my console of choice, I would upgrade to something else so the game can keep going.

I personally play on the PC... always have; that being said however I cannot understand how your comment "It's dirt-cheap to upgrade..." has not been modified to read: "It's dirt cheap [for me] to upgrade..."

I'm sure no one can speak for anyone else's financial obligations or economic standing which may or may not determine whether or not an upgrade is feasible. Because it's dirt cheap for you, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be dirt cheap for someone else.

SE's survey asking the basic question, makes perfect sense to me as a starting point; it would be detrimental to any business (regardless of type) to add a financial hardship to a large percentage of its player base. So first off, find out exactly how much of your player base would "potentially" be impacted by a forced upgrade...

Let's try not to generalize to the entire population--keep an open mind.

[CrystalWeapon]

I personally play on the PC... always have; that being said however I cannot understand how your comment "It's dirt-cheap to upgrade..." has not been modified to read: "It's dirt cheap [for me] to upgrade..."

I'm sure no one can speak for anyone else's financial obligations or economic standing which may or may not determine whether or not an upgrade is feasible. Because it's dirt cheap for you, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be dirt cheap for someone else.

SE's survey asking the basic question, makes perfect sense to me as a starting point; it would be detrimental to any business (regardless of type) to add a financial hardship to a large percentage of its player base. So first off, find out exactly how much of your player base would "potentially" be impacted by a forced upgrade...

Let's try not to generalize to the entire population--keep an open mind.

Maybe I'm just an asshole, but if someone can't throw down $100~$200 to get a computer then maybe xi should be the least of their worries. I know personally if my cash were that low I wouldn't be spending money for a mmo every month.

[Runespider]

Maybe I'm just an asshole, but if someone can't throw down $100~$200 to get a computer then maybe xi should be the least of their worries. I know personally if my cash were that low I wouldn't be spending money for a mmo every month.

Playing an MMO is one of the cheapest things you can do as a passtime, unless you want to stare at the wall.

[Insaniac]

My friend refuses to stop playing on his PS2 just out of tradition. I think this is the only thing holding most people back from switching over. Windower aside the PC version of this game is 50x better than the PS2 version. I started on the PS2 and eventually moved to a crappy laptop so I could play at work during downtime. My brain almost melted when I saw how much better it was. I thought to myself "wtf have I been doing playing on PS2". I haven't updated my PS2 version of ffxi in almost 3 years.

[Zemarin]

I play ps2 version I'mma prolly quit if they get rid of it.

1) no body should be telling ppl what they can afford, there's no guarantee that every ps2 player can find pc/laptop for under 100$ that plays this game without problem. If ppl really wanna go that route; Then how about SE provide it's ps2 payerbase with cheap laptops on their site that guarantee to play the game and come with support service for 100$ bucks and not a CENT more? (its not going to happen cuz its UN-REALISTIC)

Also ppl forget this silly thing called time... that we kinda live in, its alot easier/stable to pay 13 bux a month that you can cancell if need be... rather then paying 200 dollars all at once that could effect other bills or what not also in order to build up that 200bux one would must stop playing FFXI (or something else) for that amount of time and you know the basic rule of FFXI... if u miss out on something while alot of ppl are actually doing it, you may never EVER get it done *points at assault/salvage/Einherjar*.

And one may ask "Do ppl poor play this game?" PROBABLY I MEAN HOW MANY PPL LOST THEIR JOBS IN AMERICA AGAIN?

2) Some ppl simply just dont want to play the pc version for whatever personal reason..
In fact that's one of the reason i got this game, because it was on a CONSOLE, if it wasn't i prolly just woulda never invested time/money in this game to begin with. To take it away is rude. I don't like to play games windowed on my pc especially if they slow down my speed/crash my pc.. Regardless of how pretty they look, considering my dual core inspiron doesn't even have a graphic card, but a chip set I'm sure this game will slow down my pc and/or crash no matter how old it may be.

Anyways, just tossing it out there, its very easy for computer geeks to jump on a forum and try to analyze why ppl don't play the pc version.... but honestly whatever reason some may not play FFXI on pc simply cannot be easily remedied just cause "*insert name*says so"... please; get real. IF Se wants to cut off PS2 users they might as well just do it and get it over with, they are simply doing the survey to guage how "big" this loss will be... I'm just waiting for the outcome.

[FrankReynolds]

Honestly, the only thing the poll should ask is:

1. Do you play on a PS2 version of the game?

2. Do you have access to a computer that you could play on instead?

[Twille]

PS2 users have no argument based on the fact that a PC capable of playing FFXI is extremely cheap.
A monthly fee for FFXI + a monthly fee for internet service is equal to a significant portion of the money required for an FFXI compatible PC.
If you can't afford a PC to play FFXI, you should rethink spending your obviously scarce funds on video games and internet every month.

[Zemarin]

PS2 users have no argument based on the fact that a PC capable of playing FFXI is extremely cheap.
A monthly fee for FFXI + a monthly fee for internet service is equal to a significant portion of the money required for an FFXI compatible PC.
If you can't afford a PC to play FFXI, you should rethink spending your obviously scarce funds on video games and internet every month.

You

I play ps2 version I'mma prolly quit if they get rid of it.

1) no body should be telling ppl what they can afford, there's no guarantee that every ps2 player can find pc/laptop for under 100$ that plays this game without problem. If ppl really wanna go that route; Then how about SE provide it's ps2 payerbase with cheap laptops on their site that guarantee to play the game and come with support service for 100$ bucks and not a CENT more? (its not going to happen cuz its UN-REALISTIC)

Also ppl forget this silly thing called time... that we kinda live in, its alot easier/stable to pay 13 bux a month that you can cancell if need be... rather then paying 200 dollars all at once that could effect other bills or what not also in order to build up that 200bux one would must stop playing FFXI (or something else) for that amount of time and you know the basic rule of FFXI... if u miss out on something while alot of ppl are actually doing it, you may never EVER get it done *points at assault/salvage/Einherjar*.

And one may ask "Do ppl poor play this game?" PROBABLY I MEAN HOW MANY PPL LOST THEIR JOBS IN AMERICA AGAIN?

2) Some ppl simply just dont want to play the pc version for whatever personal reason..
In fact that's one of the reason i got this game, because it was on a CONSOLE, if it wasn't i prolly just woulda never invested time/money in this game to begin with. To take it away is rude. I don't like to play games windowed on my pc especially if they slow down my speed/crash my pc.. Regardless of how pretty they look, considering my dual core inspiron doesn't even have a graphic card, but a chip set I'm sure this game will slow down my pc and/or crash no matter how old it may be.

Me

When it comes down to what ppl prefer to play it on cost is not a reasonable argument, and when it comes to cost, if you haven't PROVED that something is economically priced and available to everyone, you can't even make a point on that matter. a cheap pc (300 bux~) = about 23 ( 2 yrs) months of FFXI. It doesn't matter if the pc can run FFXI at all as much as it matters how reliable the pc is at doing it.

For you to proclaim that you can get some cheap pc that runs FFXI perfectly for less then half a years worth of FFXI's monthly cost (based on one char about 78 dollars) and supply that to everyone, I would like to see it. Instead of ppl commenting on how cheap and easy it is to get a pc based on FFXI's monthly cost.

It's lies, its ignorant, and makes ppl look stupid.

Also I think most ppl on this board neglect the fact that if someone were to buy a pc nine times out of ten they are going to want one that can do more then just play this game, most ppl purchase consoles with the intent of only playing a game where as a pc is not such the case.. anyways im done reading this mess.