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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    There are already several free, fully instanced forms of PVP that you can do at your leisure.

    STOP SUGGESTING FIXES TO NON PROBLEMS.
    what are these several free forms of instanced PvP?

    the problem is not about fixing anything. its about making it appealing for players, and a worthwhile event.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 08-31-2011 at 02:00 PM.

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    Improving any part of PVP systems will automatically shift a large faction of FFXI players toward PVP, only caring about PVP, and only gearing for PVP. We don't need this.
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    There is nothing they can do to ballista that will ever make it appealing, the way this game works it will always be unbalanced. this is something that should just be left alone, it's not rewarding, there is no challange, all it is who has the cheapest job and can exploit crap the most, and fool people into thinking skill is invovled, it's just something to do when you are extreamly bored with the actual challange aspects of this game (assuming you have more then 1 job) terrible system, it can stay in the dirt, i'm sorry if that offends the "PVP" fans but facts are facts,

    May as well turn games like quake and call of duty into RPGs. i hate idiots who come up saying they are the "best pvper" when it's like saying i'm the best retarded kid in the special class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvinta View Post
    Improving any part of PVP systems will automatically shift a large faction of FFXI players toward PVP, only caring about PVP, and only gearing for PVP. We don't need this.
    I don't understand what would give you those ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    what are these several free forms of instanced PvP?

    the problem is not about fixing anything. its about making it appealing for players, and a worthwhile event.
    Several was a strong word, written in haste, but Brenner has been around for like 6 years.
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    Improving any part of PVP systems will automatically shift a large faction of FFXI players toward PVP, only caring about PVP, and only gearing for PVP. We don't need this.
    seems like a case of pvp paranoia.

    it's not rewarding, there is no challange
    make it rewarding and a challenge. for example they can make it a worthwhile event like how campaign and besiege once was. Both those large scale pve events is dying slowly right now because it is not really rewarding at all.

    i hate idiots who come up saying they are the "best pvper" when it's like saying i'm the best retarded kid in the special class.
    Personal experience, I never in my entire ballista career known anyone who brag about PvP in FFXI, because it was a sport, you have an objective to complete just like in Brenner. I see more people brag about conquest campaign when Windurst takes control of West Ronfaure outpost.. LS braging against other LS. etc

    Seriously guys is this the best arguments/attempts/reasons you can come up with? You don't have to play PvP. I take my leave..
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    Last edited by Andrien; 08-31-2011 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    seems like a case of pvp paranoia.



    make it rewarding and a challenge. for example they can make it a worthwhile event like how campaign and besiege once was. Both those large scale pve events is dying slowly right now because it is not really rewarding at all.
    I don't think Campaign would ever recover unless it was involved in some kind of relic upgrade or they added 95-99 gear to it same with besiged, only reason to even do that is if you are low on ISP as it used to be for skill ups but abyssea took care of that.



    Personal experience, I never in my entire ballista career known anyone who brag about PvP in FFXI, because it was a sport, you have an objective to complete just like in Brenner. I see more people brag about conquest campaign when Windurst takes control of West Ronfaure outpost.. LS braging against other LS. etc
    This was a bit exaggarated, it's more of people saying "no one can beat me in pvp" or " i have yet to met anyone who can beat me, i'll kill anyone" etc etc. just assinine, retarded comments people make like it's something actually special to beat somone in balista when all it depends on is who can dot you and run the most or nuke run, or some form of cheap tactic to make sure they get a win. and it's always the biggest idiots who brag about it because they are either not good at any other aspect of this game or they simply can't function doing anything else. imo if all you care about is pvp then it is time to play something else. (not you directly, just a general statment)

    i understand game gets boring and people want more fun things to do in this game, but i don't see balista being part of it. but that's just me.

    Seriously guys is this the best arguments/attempts/reasons you can come up with? You don't have to play PvP. I take my leave..
    And that's why people don't..there is a reason it is unpopular.
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    of course we all know the reason.. adding elements that will make it rewarding, and worthwhile will make it more popular than it is now. again those elements doesn't have to force anyone to play it.
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    Improving any part of PVP systems will automatically shift a large faction of FFXI players toward PVP, only caring about PVP, and only gearing for PVP. We don't need this.
    Any rewards should be PVP only gear (aside from a ranking system), with stats/bonuses only active when doing a PVP match. That way only those that like doing it have to worry, those that hate pvp never have to force themslvers as is a problem with WoW.

    Brenner/Ballista would take off more if it had a larger playerbase to source matches from, the biggest thing that kills it atm is few do it on every server. If it could source players from every server then that would change.
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    the amount of stupid in this thread is getting dangerous
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