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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Open access pvp content servers.

    With the addition of the test servers we now have the possibility for players from any server to play on another.

    Is there any possibility of this being expanded upon in the future? For instance a Ballista/choco racing/panktron etc server that pvp fans can use. PVP and some other things are kinda unpopular but would get a whole new lease of life if they could source people from all servers (especially if there were ladder/ranking systems).
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    No.

    There are plenty of games that are PVP based.

    FFXI is not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miitan View Post
    No.

    There are plenty of games that are PVP based.

    FFXI is not one of them.
    "Hi guys, I like playing this game my way, and I want ALL of you to play it my way too!"

    Because giving the players the option of being able to PvP cross server is going to ruin the game, and change it drastically, right?

    More on topic edit:
    I imagine it wouldn't be hard to do, seeing as they've already done the test server thing, and would fix the problem most servers have of "no one does it" because all the people that enjoy it would gather in one place, independent of server.

    Putting in gear that can only be used on said server that is multipurpose (things that boost PvP rather than PvE) would be a dream come true. Because we all know gear changing in PvP will never happen.
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 08-30-2011 at 07:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miitan View Post
    No.

    There are plenty of games that are PVP based.

    FFXI is not one of them.
    This is my FFXI! If youu don't like it, you can gettttttt out!


    Seriously, people have the most ignorant arguments against PVP on this game. How would it effect you at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    With the addition of the test servers we now have the possibility for players from any server to play on another.

    Is there any possibility of this being expanded upon in the future? For instance a Ballista/choco racing/panktron etc server that pvp fans can use. PVP and some other things are kinda unpopular but would get a whole new lease of life if they could source people from all servers (especially if there were ladder/ranking systems).
    Although PvP expansion sounds like a fun idea, I believe SE already came out and said that they were not going to expand anymore on PVP or making the game lean towards PVP. They don't want to do it, I'm okay with it, even though I think Brenner and Ballista are fun.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    I didn't write this very well I guess.

    What I meant was make a seperate server like the test one that allowed people to transfer back and fourth (or maybe even just duplicate your main) at will to do the PVP content FFXI already has, Ballista, choco racing and panktron. A specialist server that everyone from all servers can goto to do the content that is already in the game.

    The pvp content the game has right now isn't very popular but if the small number of people from every server that liked it could have a pvp server they could duplicate a char to (like the test server) it would make a lot of these kinds of players very happy.
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    Ballista is probably my favorite thing to do in the game. It brings a whole new level of challenge playing against other people as opposed to monsters and NMs. For one, other people actually have some degree of intelligence (I hope) and respond situationally to your actions. The difficulty of NMs is not exactly increasing, but several trends are becoming too common, such as frequent hate reset. If you're tired of the same boring crap, give Ballista a try! If they were to expand on it in any way, I fear I wouldn't participate in any other event other than obtaining newly released gear which takes what? a week or so these days? Less if methods of obtaining such gear is already known publicly.

    Ballista is starting to become active again on Ragnarok, the past few days people have actually been participating in the scheduled uncapped matches, and I'm having a blast!

    No.

    There are plenty of games that are PVP based.

    FFXI is not one of them.
    FFXI is not based on PvP. You are absolutely correct. However it is a part of the game and it's available for people who choose to participate. You aren't forced to have any part in it. Thank you for your pointless and unconstructive post.

    Adding a whole new server, which we can go to and return from freely, dedicated to PvP would be amazing!
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    Last edited by Harukusan; 08-30-2011 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harukusan View Post
    Ballista is probably my favorite thing to do in the game. It brings a whole new level of challenge playing against other people as opposed to monsters and NMs. For one, other people actually have some degree of intelligence (I hope) and respond situationally to your actions. The difficulty of NMs is not exactly increasing, but several trends are becoming too common, such as frequent hate reset. If you're tired of the same boring crap, give Ballista a try! If they were to expand on it in any way, I fear I wouldn't participate in any other event other than obtaining newly released gear which takes what? a week or so these days? Less if methods of obtaining such gear is already known publicly.

    Ballista is starting to become active again on Ragnarok, the past few days people have actually been participating in the scheduled uncapped matches, and I'm having a blast!



    FFXI is not based on PvP. You are absolutely correct. However it is a part of the game and it's available for people who choose to participate. You aren't forced to have any part in it. Thank you for your pointless and unconstructive post.

    Adding a whole new server, which we can go to and return from freely, dedicated to PvP would be amazing!
    It's one of my favorite things too! It's been completely dead on my server for a few years now, at least. It's so disappointing. Servers like Fenrir that still do it actively are really interesting, people clearly have a love for the sport. Doesn't matter they won't get some big shiny reward or a ton of exp for it (though I think the exp reward SHOULD be raised), it's heartwarming to see them do something solely for the fun of it. One of my favorite parts was the gearswap penalty during matches, where you couldn't move or attack for several seconds after changing equipment (aside from ammo slot anyway.) Made it impossible/suicidal to change gear spontaneously during the heat of battle, which was a highly refreshing strategic change from how the rest of the game works. And like you said, fighting other players is always completely unpredictable and exciting! Not like the brain-dead mob AI that blindly follows its enmity system.

    It's pretty depressing that SE has ignored it for many years now, it could've grown into something even greater with a few updates focused on balance and JA revision. I think the last time it even got any kind of tiny obligatory update was back in 07 when DNC and SCH chevrons were added?

    I pray someday SE knows that Ballista/Brenner has a small cult following and will at least attempt to revive it in the eyes of the general population.

    P.S: The end of the Brenner introduction cutscene hinted that Shantotto was planning her own little PVP-related event. Ballista originated in San d'Orian history, Brenner originated in Bastokan history. Woulda been neat to see what Windurst coulda cooked up. But of course, nothing ever came of it since then... And I'm pretty sure Laurel Crown and Stars Cap are now the rarest items ingame bcuz there's never been a way to get em since the ol' ballista royale of 05, and there's never been another since.
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    Last edited by Nefertiri; 08-31-2011 at 01:12 AM.

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    in 2005(or was it 2006?) we competed in a server wide ballista tournament.
    They can/have created servers just for ballista in the past.
    it was the low turn out and interest in that ballista tournament that probably convinced SE that PVP wasn't worth it.
    Looking at how other games with PVP have just about kicked the hell out of FFXI, I would say they should have just re-examined what made ballista unpopular.
    Namely Sleep-Sniping and the horrible imbalance between jobs.

    Also, Japanese in General do not like PVP games, and prefer cooperative games.
    Just a culture thing.
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    jp's have always been among the most active balli peeps on both servers that I've been on.
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